Why you Need to Ask Questions at BJJ Class

Episode 338: How many times have you heard your coach say "Any Questions guys?" BUT... No one says anything! This is a huge missed opportunity to learn for the sake of not looking stupid. This is a strange phenomena for a room full of people who are confident enough to wrestle and choke each other but feel embarrassed to speak in front of a small group of people. This is holding back your BJJ development. When it's question time, this is the best time to speak up! If you wait and continue to train leaving it till later ultimately results in forgetting  and zero improvement. JT & Joey explore how you can find out what you need to know on your own terms with many different options for improving your game and developing a method for jiu-jitsu problem solving that suits you.

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Encouraging Questions for Better Learning

Speaker 1 0:03

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Speaker 1 1:21

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Speaker 2 1:22

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Speaker 1 1:26

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Speaker 2 1:47

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Speaker 1 1:49

Yeah that's right , swords mounted , all kinds of things . But uh , my friends , when the coach says are there any questions , there's always silence . I don't really care what , unless I'm there , unless I'm actually in the class and I'm going to ask some questions , which usually the coach is like fuck , I shouldn't have let JT talk . But it doesn't matter what school I go to , it seems like a formality where the coach goes is there any questions ? But they're not actually looking for anyone to put their hand up , they're just . They're kind of like okay , good , now we do the next thing , like let's just go . Yeah , it's a bit token , but I I feel that this is a a problem , because people not asking questions leads to problems and more questions later , which can create , uh , delay in learning .

Speaker 2 2:35

Yeah , so on , that I think that people like I think that the coach has the best intentions , then they're like does anyone have any questions ?

Speaker 2 2:42

sure and I mean I've I've learned this from years of coaching groups of adults that no one wants to stick their head out . Yeah , right , if it's . If there's three people there in the class , yeah then uh , people are comfortable to ask questions , sure , but when there's , like I think , any more than like 10 people , as soon as you say hey does , you're basically saying , does anyone have anything they want to say in front of everyone else ? And people like , oh , and you're like , and so I think , as a coach , you , I mean you might just be all right , fine , let's get into it . But um , I had this last night when I was coaching and nothing , right . And then I'm like , seriously , we just went through a lot there .

Speaker 2 3:22

I'm sure someone has some shit they want to ask yeah and when you , usually when you then someone's like actually yeah , you know you gotta push them , you just show it again or whatever .

Speaker 1 3:30

But yeah , I really feel like that you have to make an effort to get people to talk there yeah , the reason why I want to bring this up was I uh was just talking about is a common phrase which is like ask , ask better questions , get better answers , and this is just about trying to think about what you're doing , but ask no questions , get no answers .

Importance of Asking Questions in Jiu-Jitsu

Speaker 1 3:52

Pretending to know what you're doing is ridiculous , because there's always some detail in jiu-jitsu that you haven't been shown before . Like I can't remember who I was talking to . I think I was actually talking with NotFab . Oh , murillo Mur , remember who I was talking to ?

Speaker 2 4:05

I think I was actually talking with . Uh , not fab . Oh , marillo , marillo , I was talking to marillo because that guy's reasonable jiu-jitsu on that guy fucking ridiculous jiu-jitsu on this guy trained with mario hayes just got back from brazil . Apparently he's just gone turbo again . Of course he's never not turbo the guy six times a day or some shit .

Speaker 1 4:19

The guy's so strong , but also just incredibly technical , and I said to him it's interesting that when you train with many high level coaches , you might learn a new detail from each coach . They might show it slightly differently according to how they learned it . So there's all this information to be learned and what I try to do is I go oh , why do you do it that way ? Because the coach might have a reason you never thought of . And that is the lesson not just do this grip . Why do you do it that way ?

Speaker 1 4:51

Now , this is an annoying habit I learned from a very young age . My mom my mom is probably , you know she wished she didn't say to it , but she said to me when I was quite young you should always ask why , like , find out the reason behind something . And then eventually I'm saying to my mom like , but why ? But , but why ? You know , kids just get real annoying with the coach . She's like cause I fricking said so , go to your room . And so I try to do this with jujitsu , because I feel like I'm paying this money I'm giving this time I need to get what I want out of this , and that is I want to fucking learn something . I don't want to just go through the motions .

Speaker 2 5:29

On that , though . Have you always had that approach , or has that been something maybe in more recent years ?

Speaker 1 5:37

I think being in a higher belt , right Like I don't feel . When I was a white and blue belt , probably not as much , but once I started to get to purple , I think it was like I was more invested and therefore I was like , well , fuck , I gotta , I gotta get what it came for , whereas as a white and blue belt I was kind of like , fuck , I don't , I don't even know , I don't even know what's going on right now . I couldn't even ask a good question . What to ask ? Yeah , what the fuck do I .

Speaker 2 6:02

I think another side of that , too , though , is that , like when you're earlier on , you don't like whatever it is that you need to know has been covered . When the coach is like yeah go here , go fucking here and then fucking go here and you're like okay , that's what I need right , yeah but once you're like learning the triangle from close guard for the 120th time sure you know you're like all right , I don't .

Speaker 2 6:24

I got the fucking basics down , but hey , there's a . You know , tell me about that little thing you do that little detail yeah and I think it's also like confidence to speak up .

Speaker 1 6:34

You don't want to be like , I don't want to be the . I won't be the fuckwit . Never really had that problem . Uh , I just register at the front door , I am always been okay with it I'm not , I'm . I'm not a fuckwit , I'm going to be . But the interesting thing this is something that's occurred to me from speaking in a room full of pros . Like everyone , there is like a brown or black belt , everyone's a gun , but sometimes people don't want to ask a question cause they don't want to seem like to let .

Speaker 2 7:02

Yeah , yeah .

Speaker 1 7:03

And I think it doesn't matter if you're a white belt or a black belt . You never want to look stupid .

Speaker 2 7:07

Yeah , black belts . Like I shouldn't have to ask any questions . I know everything . I already know . Yeah .

Speaker 1 7:12

But we know that that's just . That's not the case , right .

Speaker 2 7:15

Yeah .

Speaker 1 7:15

And I'm not afraid to look stupid . You guys know this . So what often asking a question does is it helps everyone else in the room yeah because you might say something that everyone's like . Oh , thank god , I had no idea what that was .

Speaker 2 7:27

That's why we have our q and a episode . Don't send us a dm and have this valuable exchange just one-to-one yeah let us put it on the show , because surely there's going to be hundreds of other people that are wondering that same thing .

Speaker 1 7:39

They can benefit , yeah and in class , like , even though yeah're there selfishly , you want to get what you want , but you are also a training partner . So you , being a good training partner , helps your , your , your training partner , and then also you putting yourself out there , which might seem , you know , we're fucking shoving our crotches in people's faces , we're elbowing people in the neck , we're kicking people , we're throwing people on the ground , but we're like , oh , I don't want to , I don't want to speak publicly . Oh , my God , you know like it's such a contrast . You're a room full of tough humans . They're like oh , I don't want to seem ridiculous , yeah , you know what I mean ?

Speaker 2 8:15

Yeah , I do .

Speaker 1 8:16

Have you seen much of this in the coaching ? Because , for those of you who don't know , joey coaches , coaches . So he runs a thing called the Coaches Intensive , and so he is often trying to help people who are already very good get better , and that's another room of pride , right ? Like people who already , like I'm a trainer , I know what the fuck's going on . They don't want to seem ignorant , but they want to learn too .

Speaker 2 8:45

Have you encountered a similar situation like that ? I've encountered heaps of say this thing of like , not wanting to extend yourself in front of the group and ask a silly question . Yeah , a lot of that , and when I run that course , there are like I'm , I'm a motherfucker on that front . I'll be like guys , so give me some feedback on what we just went through and I'll just have spoken to them for like an hour about social media marketing and everyone be like it's good and I'm like cunts no you haven't nailed it .

Speaker 2 9:12

I know that . I know that everything I said there didn't make sense . Surely someone disagrees with something I've said ? Yeah you know , and so I like really have to like poke and prod , and then eventually someone's like oh actually you know , someone once told me this other thing . And you're like great , this is a mad exchange that's good so yeah , I think it's always present .

Speaker 2 9:30

I think it can . It can come about in that scenario for maybe a slightly different reason , which is that , like , say , we're spending two days on this intensive it's an intensive couple of days . Your brain's a bit fried , yeah , so often when it's like we , I've just finished my fucking thing and we're like , hey , we're about to move on to the next thing , but does anyone have any questions ? It's like more bandwidth too much fuck . What do I want to ask him ? What do I not understand ?

Speaker 2 9:54

yeah and I . I guess in jujitsu I can liken that to when you show up to a class and you're tired yeah and you're like fuck , I don't really want to be here . Yeah , you know , and sometimes and that's okay , right , sure , sometimes those- got there . Yeah , you just get through .

Speaker 1 10:07

You got there , and that was a big achievement in itself .

Speaker 2 10:10

Yeah , but yeah , I do think we get in our own way in terms of getting what we actually want from the thing , like you said , because you'll go away from that and be like fuck , I should have just asked that thing . Yeah , like , how often does this happen that you'll say hey , guys , here's the technique , or whatever . Does anyone have any questions ? Guys ? You sure , okay , great , let's get into it . And then , as soon as you clap hands or whatever , someone comes over and says hey , when you put your hand on the elbow and often I'm like question time's over .

Speaker 2 10:40

Yeah , you had that .

Speaker 1 10:43

Yeah , no , that happens nearly every time .

Speaker 2 10:47

Yeah .

Speaker 1 10:51

But I think maybe it's because after you've done the clap or whatever , the social attention pressure is off , so then people don't feel held back to say something .

Speaker 1 11:02

Yeah , and I think actually this has been a bit more revealed in our Facebook group because we have the main chat and there's some people in there who are shameless in their use of the main chat . They're not thinking about the group , they're like this is my personal chat , I'm going to post 10 questions . Fuck , all right . But we also have the coaching chat , the motivation , like side channels , and they're very active , like I'm really on the main channel , I am in those side channels , you know whatever it might be , and it's cool because it's almost like you're at a party and everybody's there and you can't talk to everyone . But then you kind of go to a side room and you're like oh , there's five people sitting on the couch , everyone's fucking , someone's passing a spliff , all right , you know , and there's a bit more of a . It feels more relaxed to be in a smaller group of people chatting , not speaking , to two and a half thousand people potentially .

Speaker 2 11:53

Yeah , you know , because the chat group has a label and so you're like oh , everyone here is here for this thing For this thing , so I can talk about this thing , yeah , and it's interesting that you should have a group for people who are not good at asking questions . Well , that might be a stale chat . I'll run that one .

Speaker 1 12:13

Okay , cool , that's cool . It's a low-maintenance chat . But I think this is where trying to get people to share or ask in front of everyone . When you get to the drilling or the specific training questions come out and the reason why I think it's good to try to ask the question when it's at the top of your brain , you're going to fucking forget , you're going to roll . You had half an idea . I don't know , even if you've , you might have experienced this where you've had a good idea . You're like fuck , that's a great idea , I should fucking write that down . It's not jujitsu related . It should fucking write that down . It's not jujitsu related , anything like shit . I'm gonna do that thing . And then you kind of go on with your day .

Speaker 1 12:49

our lady like what was that genius thing I came up with and now what the fuck it's , it's just gone . Yeah right , and if you don't ask the question in the moment , if you then are now rolling or doing whatever , the next thing is you hit with adrenaline , sweat , you get bumped in the face , you're like like all kind of logic and reasoning related , that's gone . So I think there is a value in asking the question when you got it .

Speaker 2 13:16

Yeah , and it's a really good point you make there that you might have something that you wanted to ask . And then you're like oh wait , and then the coach shows like the next technique piece and then drill that . And then at a point coach is like all right , it's time to roll , yeah . And then it's like ah , fuck it , let's go put my mouth guard in , or like let's get in , and then , and then you forget it entirely because you've just now , you just want to roll .

Speaker 1 13:39

Yeah .

Speaker 2 13:39

And like that's exciting . So I find that , yeah , I think your point there about when the thing comes to you really fucking do it Like get it out then , because it's potentially going to be the only chance you have to do it .

Speaker 1 13:50

Yeah for sure .

Michelle Nicolini's Seminar at Monstar Zen

Speaker 1 13:52

Actually an interesting thing which I went to Michelle Nicolini's seminar the other night at Monstar Zen BJJ in the city .

Speaker 2 14:00

Monstar Zen . I'd never been there before . Cool name .

Speaker 1 14:03

Great , great . They do like a full contact karate . They do kickboxing , they do like a full contact karate .

Speaker 2 14:09

They do kickboxing , they do full contact karate .

Speaker 1 14:10

Yeah .

Speaker 2 14:11

Wow , that's bringing it back .

Speaker 1 14:12

Yeah , so I believe Christian is the head coach there . He actually got his black belt that night .

Speaker 2 14:16

Oh , wow , yeah , oh wow From Michelle .

Speaker 1 14:18

Not from Michelle , it was kind of from Philippe .

Speaker 2 14:21

Okay , and Michelle was there and she's Philippe's coach , isn't she of sorts , of sorts ?

Speaker 1 14:26

she graded him yeah and uh he . He said to say hello to you lovely .

Speaker 2 14:30

Yeah , yeah , still haven't met the guy oh , he's a .

Speaker 1 14:33

He's a super nice guy . I think he's more .

Speaker 2 14:36

I think you may have met him really yeah , I mean , we've had a lot to do on socials yeah , yeah , for sure , but he anyway , not to worry .

Speaker 1 14:44

Many , many years ago he was at gracie Sydney .

Speaker 2 14:46

Okay .

Speaker 1 14:47

In that situation . This was an interesting thing which I hadn't experienced before . Michelle got everybody to show what had been done in the seminar . She was like you have to show one thing , but everybody has to show it . Whoa , grab your partner and show me something . Your favorite part of whatever we did tonight , one by one , it had to happen . Or like , yeah , pairs .

Speaker 2 15:08

All right , so like it wasn't like okay , jt show us Show everything , Okay . Craig show us . It was like go on , show on , I'm going to have a look .

Speaker 1 15:15

No , no , no , you had to do it in front of the class . Oh , that's stressful . And she just sat there . If people didn't , she would go come do it . Like , name a person , go . You're like oh , yes , boss , wow , yeah , it was great , that's cool . It was cool . I went to show my preferred technique , which is kind of like it's a bit of a headstand hip switch like a pass . It almost fucking flopped , like kind of went to a headstand and was like overcorrecting and was like pulled it in and got it . But everyone was like , don't break your neck , dude . I was like , don't worry , I won't break my neck , I'll just be dumb . But I ended up showing more than one technique .

Speaker 2 16:08

I embarrassed myself in front of Michelle .

Speaker 1 16:10

Too late .

Speaker 2 16:13

You got her on the podcast right ? Yeah , it's cool .

Speaker 1 16:19

I mean she's the most high , so you can't . She's trained with all the greatest jiu-jitsu players of all time . There's nothing you can do in rolling or in in any way that could impress her somehow . She's very much more about how you are as a person right which is one of the great things about who she is .

Speaker 1 16:39

But here's something I want to say about the question thing . Guys , if you can keep a question in your mind and you are like , fuck I , I just can't even bring myself to talk in front of the class . Grab your coach at the end of the class . I think there's actually as long as you can keep it in your mind and maybe a problem comes up in rolling and I always like if um joey hits me with a move and I'm like , fuck , why couldn't I stop ? What's what's happening ? That he did that . And if I can't solve the problem for myself , then I'm just I hold onto that . Not that I bear a grudge or score points .

Speaker 2 17:14

Hold onto it very tightly .

Speaker 1 17:16

For years until I come up with the perfect counter . And then at the end of the class I'll go hey , come here bro . I'll say yo , adam , let's , can we show me how to fuck this guy up ? No , and this . But this is actually a key learning for me , because it was a problem I couldn't solve . I knew you had the answer .

Speaker 2 17:33

You're talking about my fast heart , aren't you ?

Speaker 1 17:35

No , that's still a problem I haven't resolved . No , I think you got on to that .

Importance of Asking Questions in BJJ

Speaker 1 17:41

No , what I'm saying here is not necessarily the person's best technique , but what can be good is if something comes up in rolling , it vexes you and you're not sure what to do . The best time to solve it is almost immediately post-class If you get an opportunity , I know that Even in the Like , depending on your relationship with that , even in the roll- .

Speaker 2 18:01

You could be like hey , man yeah it's like , hey , bro , can you fucking show me how you did that ?

Speaker 1 18:04

That .

Speaker 2 18:04

That's because if they've just tapped , you like yeah , if they've passed or something , you're not going to be like hey , stop show me . But if they've just tapped you .

Speaker 1 18:12

Now you're on side control with the crossface . Could you just go back into my guard ?

Speaker 2 18:14

Yeah , I don't think that's going to work very well the second time let's just try it again . But but yeah , like if they've tapped well , because there's that funny old school thing of like people not sharing techniques .

Speaker 1 18:24

Yeah .

Speaker 2 18:36

I really don't imagine . I haven't come across anyone like that for a long time .

Speaker 1 18:41

And I know I'm not training in gyms like that . No , that is a more old school , traditional approach , because information is out there .

Speaker 2 18:46

Yeah , that's right . And so I think when someone says to you , can you just do that to me again and break down what you're doing , people like yeah , like they're psyched because you're saying to them that's a really good technique and it's a compliment , and I don't know what it's a problem for me .

Speaker 1 18:58

Yeah , help me solve it yeah , and I think that there's humility in that and I think that's probably at the base of all this like ask a question thing . It shows humility to say I don't , I don't know everything and we all know that right , and we all very proud . It's funny . This is the irony . We very proudly talk about humility in bjj oh it'll humble you .

Speaker 2 19:21

That's why we're the best yeah , that's why you should never tap , it's so it's so funny , it's such a , it's such a such a jujitsu irony .

Speaker 1 19:28

But at the heart of it is , for example , bernardo Faria . Everyone would say in the gym he would train ultra hard but he would get tapped a lot in the gym , but because he was open to losing . This is what made him such a tough competitor , because he'd already explored that , he already knew , yeah , the pitfalls of all of those things , whereas a lot of people who only play their a game and don't want to play bad positions , they fucking get found out right yeah , it'd actually be interesting to know what ?

Speaker 2 20:02

um , because I know gary tonin said a similar thing , right ? Yeah , like , if you're afraid of getting tapped out in training , then you're like massively holding yourself back and it makes perfect sense . However , based on my experience like my own training , but also the people I've trained with not a lot of people train like that and I'm interested to know at the elite level , how many people actually follow that kind of philosophy many people actually follow that kind of philosophy ?

Speaker 1 20:32

yeah , I , I think it's a mix . I think it's a mix like um , there was a phase at absolute where lucky would get us to play kind of like the thing we're trying to win at , like , all right , we're going to do the position that you're good at or you're working on , but then that once you've done I can't remember how many rounds , say two , three rounds of that for specific training , and everyone got to you're doing a line drill , but coming off the line you didn't know what guard you're going into . All right , we're doing your X guard . Oh shit , okay , you're on my back and you would play that round out . But then he would say all right , now do the thing that you kind of are not so good at , not so good at . And for me it was always my back . Once someone got my back , I , I , if someone got a body triangle and I would defend a lot , but that's typically where I got submitted the most right uh , so I would just go .

Speaker 1 21:19

Yeah , I gotta work on my back defense , that was always my default . Yep , get on my back , fuck , all right , I gotta work from here , yeah , and just know how to be safe there . And yeah , it took me three or four months , but after a while I was like , oh , I'm not getting tapped as much here , and it was just , yeah , familiarity , yeah , you know , we all fear the unknown . It's more that we've all been there where someone starts doing something to you and you're like we're in different territory now we're talking different languages . What the fuck is this ?

Speaker 2 21:46

Yeah , particularly in like , say , someone attacking your back , where it's easy to let , to just stress out .

Speaker 1 21:54

Oh , just freak out . Oh , fuck you know .

Speaker 2 21:57

And then , as soon as , and then you're like , oh , why did I wait ? I went from being like kind of controlled and then all of a sudden , I was just freaking out .

Speaker 1 22:04

Yeah .

Speaker 2 22:04

And that's when you realize oh wow , this is a completely unexplored space for me . Yeah .

Speaker 1 22:09

And look , I think for a lot of people , mount is that way . For me back in the day it was side control . I never wanted to be in side control , so I used to fight so hard to never , never , ever , ever let someone pass my guard . And I trained with a guy called Zorro Well , that was his nickname it's that Gordo Jiu Jitsu . He ended up going to evolve MMA .

Speaker 1 22:31

I don't know what has happened to his career since , but he was a very top level heavyweight brown belt and I was pushing on his hips so hard he had like a Torriendo and he was like and we were spinning in circles and he had both my legs and I hadn't taken care of that , but I just had both hands on his hip and I was just pushing into his hip and he's driving and we're just doing burnouts , homer Simpson style . And then he just hip switched and I just went and then he had side control and he just turned . He said man , why are you using so much energy ? He's like it's too late . I got both your legs . They're over here Like you are past . He's like you would be better off giving it up but then escaping the side control to then , you know , infinitely waste your energy . And in a position where I've already won , that doesn't make sense . And he I don't . I was like fuck . No one ever said that to me before . I didn't even ask him the question , but that was my problem .

Speaker 2 23:26

Yeah .

Speaker 1 23:34

And sometimes you get that a higher belt , just schools , you like , dude , stop doing that shit and that's , they're solving your problem even though your pride might go .

Speaker 1 23:40

No , no , it's just , you got lucky , yeah , but you know 110 bro works on . You know 99 of white belts , okay , I don't care if you're a black belt , you got lucky . So this whole questioning thing and this isn't to go too far down a rabbit hole , but what you might do next time you're in class is force yourself go . I'm going to ask a question tonight and maybe don't make it about the carnivore diet .

Speaker 1 24:02

I remember one time I said this a couple of times before my guy Tommy Tommy's a legend , but we I said before my guy tommy , uh , tommy's a legend , but we I said any questions , guys and I should have said I should have definitely qualified that and gone any questions about the technique and the position we're doing . Tonight . He said , oh , jt , what do you think about the carnivore diet for weight loss ? I was like tommy , we're doing reverse delhaven man and what , what the hell ? I'm not gonna talk about the carnivore diet right now . You are hijacking this conversation Like , please , let's bring it back to what the fuck we're doing . So that's what I would say . If you're someone who doesn't ask questions and you don't feel like you've got anything to contribute , I think you will be surprised that taking that step , which takes a little bit of courage , a bit of humility , will actually help everyone around you .

Speaker 2 24:55

That's , that's , that's kind of my take on it .

Speaker 2 24:56

Yeah , and I think um prompting yourself to reflect , asking yourself what is my question yeah forces you to reflect on what's being taught to you right now , and that in and of itself , is a beneficial way to learn the thing better . Because you're like , okay , what am I going to ask ? And then you're like , well , they're showing us . Okay , I've got to step here , and then I've got to switch my hips and then I've got to go from the underhook to over the top . That is like this reflection piece . You might find out that I don't have a question . I got it .

Speaker 1 25:27

And in that case great yeah , for sure .

Speaker 2 25:29

But more than likely you're going to be like wait , I can't actually remember what happens after X . Yeah , you know .

Speaker 1 25:34

Yeah , it can happen , right , Because just your mind can wander .

Speaker 2 25:38

Yeah .

Speaker 1 25:38

But I think it also helps your coach , because maybe it prompts them on a detail they know , but they didn't say didn't yeah .

Speaker 2 25:49

They didn't say yeah , there's like I was thinking about last night like I was teaching some mount stuff , yeah , and I kind of thought in my head on the way to class I was sort of planning out the session about the details I wanted to cover and I was like that's mad , like that's really comprehensive , and then I taught it and it was good and you know , everyone seemed to do well out of it and whatever , and but then afterwards I was like fuck , there's so many details I missed , right . And I just reoccurred to me that you can't really cover everything . No , right , especially not in a class format maybe in a seminar .

Speaker 2 26:17

You can go deeper , but sure , and and so it's like well , that's why , yeah

Effective Coaching Strategies and Communication

Speaker 2 26:21

, you can . One person can coach them out like that one person can coach it 20 different ways sure let alone 20 different people yeah , you know , but there's always more details but there's also an art to enough that's right , right , right , and I think

Speaker 1 26:34

I think you've probably brought this to my attention more and more , you know recent years and I I've thought about it more too is the . The coaches need to want to share all the information , and that's actually too much . People can only retain so much , so it's really important that you . It's the same thing if you see , like great mma coaches , they say one , maybe two things in the corner like , hey , this is happening , stop that . Also , you need to do this . Here's some water yeah yeah , are we having a good time head movement ?

Speaker 1 27:08

no , don't , don't fucking , if you are asking the question , don't ask a fucking multiple choice , fucking 20 answer like , just make it about one thing like what , what's the key detail ?

Speaker 2 27:20

there's a topic we didn't go into . You know , I don't think we should , but , but there's people who ask questions as a flex oh , and you're like dude . I quit it with the spider-man questions I get it that you've like thought way ahead about this technique when I place my big toe and yeah well , keenan shows it like this .

Speaker 1 27:38

And what do you ? Uh , yeah , no , I just think . Yeah , that's true too . Like there's some , there's someone who always asks the question , and it's actually not helpful .

Speaker 2 27:46

Yeah , don't share this episode with that person but uh , yeah , there's a .

Speaker 1 27:52

There's a phrase I actually wrote it down today as my quote of the day which is wisdom . Uh isn't knowing what to say , it's knowing when to shut the fuck up , and so there's also an element to repeat that to you sometimes . Please thank you , I knew you'd like it . Joe's like I am so wise uh , I'm not so there it is . Folks , I think you will be surprised at what it will do for you , but also what it can do to help your training partners .

Speaker 1 28:20

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