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How JiuJitsu Addiction Takes Over!

JT & Joey

Have you become a Jiu-Jitsu Addict? Got bitten by the BJJ Bug? You may not realize it, but you have now changed your life around your BJJ habit- gotta get that rolling fix. JT & Joey unpack what is it that makes our experience on the mats so addictive and why we will often give up dates, work and family gatherings for a cheeky open mat. When you get deep into the BJJ experience you may not realize how deep the connection to the process of squeezing and smashing into another human being can change you. The cocktail of stress hormones, dopamine, serotonin, intense intimacy and community and connection. The boys breakdown why BJJ can take over your life and why this could be the one addiction that is actually good for you- the stress that brings relief to your life.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

I'm ready.

Speaker 1:

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another Bulletproof for BJ podcast. Why is Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu so addictive? You got the bug. You tried a class. Your friend said come along, it'll be easy, it'll be nice. First taste is free. And now you can't stop going to jujitsu. You've shaped your life around it, you've changed your shifts, you've changed girlfriends. It doesn't matter, it's all about jujitsu now. But why is this so? Why is rolling so important to us? Why will we give up family gatherings for open mats?

Speaker 2:

Sacrifice health, health For that one little taste it's got this cult.

Speaker 1:

It compels us to do it and we are going to break it down for you today. We are going to talk you through the major components as to why we get so hooked up on jiu-jitsu. We all have that phase right. We recognize it in others. The froth. You would have seen it a bunch, joey, wouldn't you? I fucking lived it, brah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you lived it. Yeah, I mean, we all see it. You see, those people that are frothy, and the people that are frothy, I think, look at people like me now and like how are?

Speaker 2:

you not so frothy? Yeah, like. I remember talking to someone, I think a purple belt. We're watching a comp or watching Subversion or something, and she said to me like fucking, how good's jiu-jitsu? Eh, she's like you. Just what did she say? She said something like you can't go a day without it, or something. I was like I do that all the time. I can totally live without it for long stretches. But I was just like, ah, we're at different stages of the journey.

Speaker 1:

You've just lost the loveey. Yeah, that's right. No, and so let's, let's start with the physical, because there is some chemical reasons why it really gets you in. Now you know part of the reason why we get, you know, addicted to using our phones or junk food or whatever thing. Where you just can't stop doing it is dopamine. We are dopamine monkeys, we live for it and nothing really gives you a bigger dopamine, serotonin and adrenal hit, like we're talking, all the kind of amphetamine hormones in your body that get you so keyed up. Feel good chemicals yeah, well, it's, it's a mixture of the feel good, but then also the stress hormones, yeah, and it's like I almost died. I didn't die. I don't know if you've ever been skydiving or bungee jumping have. I went skydiving for my friend's 25th birthday and it was. I thought I was going to die every second. You know, some people are like oh, so good.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to die, I'm going to die, I'm going to die the whole time. And I think some people feel like this when they get to jujitsu they're getting rinsed, they're getting tumbled, and then they don't die and they're like oh, what a relief, oh, that was great, oh, I should probably do that again. And that's the thing you are getting all these hormones coursing through your body. But you're also getting a workout. You're getting, you know, people talk about, oh, the runner's high man, fuck the runner's high. That ain't nothing. That's like a little sip of a light beer compared to the heroin.

Speaker 1:

That is BJJ, the thing that just gets you in and just rearranges your whole life and it's hitting you on so many chemical levels. And not only do you feel good physically at the start. You're getting this reward. And that's what I talk about with addiction is you get the stimulus. And then you get the reward and you go, oh, how good was that. And you forget all the negative aspects and you go right, let's get that stimulus thing again. There might be some bad stuff in there, but you get this huge hormonal reward and that's the thing that you remember.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So this physicality piece, like I reckon I've got a couple of views on it and I've mentioned, you know, on other episodes before, but I think one of the huge ones. And we say this in the gym here, right, not in jiu-jitsu, but just on the gym floor, people don't, people don't have much physical connection with other people.

Speaker 2:

Yes, right, like you have it with your partner, right, romantic connection whatever, um, but unless you play a contact sport like rugby or jiu-jitsu or you know some other combat sport like, but you know, like plenty of martial arts don't have a lot of touching, right?

Speaker 2:

yeah, like I remember like doing karate and shit as a kid and yeah, there's never very little engagement with that actual like physical engagement with another person. But judo has a lot like wrestling things where you're actually getting squeezed and exchanging and touching and most, most people right, there's a I think there's a minority of people that sort of don't like physical touch. Um, but I think the vast majority of humans and I think inbuilt into our, into our dna and our whole being, is that touch is an essential part of life. Definitely, you know, and it's so, you feel it right, like when someone, um, I don't know when, you like sometimes when you get a good hug from somebody you know, or like when you look at kids, like when kids are upset, they just want to be held, they want to come to you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think it's something we train out of ourselves a bit as adults, but we all like it. Now in modern life there's nowhere to really get it where it's not creepy, you know, and so you go to the office all day and you're doing your shit and you just you go the whole day and you don't touch no one. Yeah, but you go to jujitsu class and you're actually getting hugged for like 60 minutes Forcefully. Yeah, like it's a really amplified, like intensified hugging session.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And of course, you're not like consciously going like oh, it's so nice to be hugged, but you finish this thing and you're like that was so much fun, yeah, and a lot of reasons which we're going to look at. But I honestly think that like it would be cool to test it, definitely where it would be like um, I don't know, almost taking the techniques away and just having like a 60 minute kind of hugging exchange and seeing what happens to the brain chemicals, yeah well, no, they've actually they have shown that a hug, I think over 20 seconds, does give like a serotonin release.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so it's definitely in there.

Speaker 2:

I think it's. I believe it's seven seconds is the Seven seconds right, yeah seven. Second kiss, seven, second hug, right. And I tested this with Misa Right, because I'm like, yeah, you know we'll kiss, but you know, not for seven seconds Like I'll see you later, but not for seven seconds, yeah.

Speaker 2:

But I was like, let me stretch this one out, and I was like I actually felt like I crossed a little threshold where I'm like, oh, like it. Yeah, it became less of a token thing, more of like. Actually, this is a really nice feeling.

Speaker 1:

And then the clothes came off and Leo go in your pen. You don't have a fenced off section for him. You know, like a velociraptor, the motherfucker will destroy the fence.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

Yeah, look. No, it's funny because I have done a similar thing too and it's interesting because you know side note about what is it. You know steroids and autism is the sweet spot for key jiu-jitsu people. It's interesting how many people who are kind of on the spectrum or maybe just not good at expressing themselves emotionally depending on what's going on, do gravitate towards jujitsu and they have shown that. You know, you were looking at cattle crushes a little while back, right, joe.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I'll speak to the farmer in you, sir. There was a particular behavioral scientist who she actually had a degree of autism but she used to like to get in the cattle crush because her being squashed helped her feel relaxed, oh wow. And she went into research around weighted blankets and all this other stuff that kids that don't feel safe or they feel anxious, that the squeezing and the physical pressure. After a certain amount of time it actually helps them relax. Now I don't know if this is like a survival mechanism or like, uh, certain surfers I've spoken to are like when you're getting held down by waves, you actually need to relax, like if you fight it you'll fatigue and then you will use up all your oxygen, you you'll struggle. But they said that they feel a really interesting calm, even though they could die the pressure of the waves smashing them.

Speaker 2:

If they relax, there's a certain peacefulness that comes with that, but yeah, yeah, I mean, I think that we get a little bit of that with strength training too, right.

Speaker 2:

But I remember reading Move your DNA, katie Bowman talking about the this is getting a little bit heady here but the vector of compression on cells, right, and she was talking about how, when you load your body up in different ways, like back squatting or walking barefoot, pressure is placed on the cells and, uh, when that pressure is varied, it produces a different stimulus and it's really good to get this variety of pressure. Yeah, you know. So like whatever, like like mixing up your training or movement generally kind of does this, and so I'm thinking it's kind of it seems like somehow linked to that. Right, it's almost like they say that with kids, it's like they need a lot of, they need that compression in order to kind of expel some of the tension that they build up throughout the day. And I don't know I'm like how could that be any different for adults? I think we're better at controlling all of that stuff.

Speaker 1:

Well, we've been trained to be that way, but it doesn't mean that that's natural.

Speaker 2:

That's right, like somewhere in there. It's like you got, yeah, you got fucking pent up shit and you got no physical outlet for it. Yeah, and then you know, come to Squeeze Fest at 6 30 game on. Yeah, bro, you remember that story. I told you about um pedro sour and coaching in abu dhabi. Right, yes, but quick synopsis for the listeners um, early days of jujitsu in the united arab emirates, uh, don't, was it. Was it pedro sour or was it?

Speaker 2:

You know, somebody else was coaching jujitsu. There was a the sheik or one of the kind of elites there, royalty. Yeah, they had a child, I think, a son, who was on the spectrum and had never really engaged with the father like the kid. You know, eye contact, direct conversation, these these things weren't commonplace between them and the kid really gravitated towards jujitsu. And I think after a couple of years of training jiu-jitsu I think it was Pedro Sáez had a really good relationship with this kid, found that through jiu-jitsu they could communicate and the kid could express themselves and fostered a beautiful thing there. And then, after a couple of years of that, one night at dinner the kid was able to look at the dad and engage in a conversation.

Speaker 2:

Wow or it was something less profound than that, but it was like the kid looked at his father and responded yeah well, you know. And the father's like holy fucking shit and he's like man, that's jujitsu, like that's, that's what jujitsu did for that child, and so that was like a pivotal moment where it's like, okay, every kid's doing jujitsu, yeah, you know, but quite incredible, right like it was an unlock for for communication or expression for that child yeah, and that's amazing.

Speaker 1:

That kind of leads me to a nice little segue to the next. The next major point as to why jujitsu is so addictive and it does. That's the thing about a drug. Now we're not just talking about, oh, I'm addicted to sugar. Sugar is not heroin. Like people are not selling their car to get another hit of a candy bar, like when people are like, oh, I'm addicted to sugar. It's kind of bullshit. It rewires your brain. Right Now people say, oh yeah, sugar this.

Speaker 1:

That the reason why I say this is part of humans. You know we are often trying to move away from pain and towards pleasure. This is like a very basic concept. I'm not saying this is sum total, I'm not getting too hard on the psychology here, but we crave connection. Humans crave connection. We are herd animals, even though we can exist by ourselves.

Speaker 1:

I went down a bit of a rabbit hole around loneliness because I was doing a bit of research around different things related to psychology and saying how much young people feel fucking lonely because of social media. Like the way they engage with people is through social media and we all do it right. But you and I are pre-internet kids. We, the internet didn't exist when we were young, so there was a thing where you had to go and engage with people. That's not necessarily the case now. But here's the biggest problem with society and you'd actually touched on it before, joe um, in one of our paid episodes which is people are losing community. People are losing the ability to engage with each other, like people feel not scared, but there's something holding people back with just being like hey man, how are you?

Speaker 1:

you know, and you live in the same neighborhood yeah your kids go to the same daycare, the same school, and they're just like oh, don't talk to him, he has a mustache yeah, you know, just probably wants to suck my dick.

Speaker 2:

Get away from me, creep it's so strange.

Speaker 1:

No, it's just a jiu-jitsu tutorial, um. But here's, let me just show you, it's a takedown. Here's the thing, just a jujitsu tutorial. But here's, let me just show you, it's a takedown. Here's the thing Jujitsu creates community on a level I have never seen before. Now, martial arts in general creates community, but jujitsu does it more and more, and I think it comes off the back of that intimacy thing. Yeah, even if you don't love somebody, they're not your best friend you're smashing into each other at such a consistent basis. You're probably spending more time in physical contact with your training partners than you are with your family. Yeah, right, just because that's if, unless you do jujitsu with your family. But good luck to you. That's cool.

Speaker 2:

That really forces you to have some kind of a relationship, because even if you're not mates, you have to you know they it's a community, yeah, nonetheless, yeah, yeah, I think I'm trying to think about, like, what constitutes a community, right, and I think there's a few things within jiu-jitsu that it does to fulfill that. One is shared struggle. Yes, right, shared struggle. Camaraderie. Camaraderie, like we're going, the sessions are hard, the injuries suck, um, you know, like there's all that. There's also, like this shared joy, like we all love this thing and get, have a really good time doing it, but then there's um, then there's a like, a sense of like, a sense of purpose and contribution, and that sense of purpose and contribution.

Speaker 2:

And that sense of purpose and contribution maybe grows as you do it more. But it's like oh, hey, can you run the warm-up tonight? Or hey, would you like to take the kids' class? Or hey, you know, can you show us the technique, you know, whatever. Like even when the coach is like, hey, come and be my uke tonight, yeah, you're like, oh shit, yeah, like you have a role to play within this group, right, yeah. And then the contribution piece is like well, the other part, I think, is the hierarchy Acknowledgement, acknowledgement, yeah, I think that thing is in that Exactly, it's there, and it's also like the pathway of like I've got these milestones, these rites of passage, you know, and so it's kind of very, it's very primal in that way, because we used to I think we used to have a lot of that shit a lot more hierarchies back in in tribal days, yeah, and you had to go through them to to be a good part of the clan.

Speaker 1:

But now it's like, oh, I'm the'm the assistant manager of HR for Officeworks.

Speaker 2:

That's right. What is that? And that's probably like when you talk to corporate people and look, not speaking down on that.

Speaker 1:

No, no, that's you know. Shout out to everybody in HR.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 2:

Go to sodycomau, get yourself hydrated, but that's probably like, like that's interesting for us, right, as kind of entrepreneurs there's no real um hierarchy for what we do. But say, yeah, if you're in the corporate world, you have the hierarchy structure there too. And it's interesting when you talk with someone who's in corporate where they're like oh yeah, I've got my review coming up and I'm hoping to get a pay, and you're like, wow, like you're on this full journey that I'm so oblivious to, because I've just never experienced that. In any case, I think that JITS has all of those things built in, and so it's like I think they're very, on a humanity level, extremely fulfilling. You know, we lack purpose. We lack this thing about people not being able to socialize with their neighbors right is because they don't need to.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

Our community was born out of a necessity. Hey, we better fucking look after each other, because that community over there is going to come and rape and pillage this whole shit. So we better stand together, so we better stand together. We've got to know each other. We've got to make sure we're training, keeping everyone sharp. Like you know, good network like this is the basis of our existence um, whereas now like at least here that's not a thing, so it's like I don't need to know. You pal.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I'm thinking that, like I think, most people can't put together that because they don't fulfill that thing anymore, they also feel isolated and fucking lonely yeah, that's right and and it is interesting that there's so many things the society rewards us for because it supports the economic engine, which doesn't actually it's not actually good for us, whereas what is so great about brazilian jiu-jitsu is where, no matter what gym you train at, the path is pretty clear you get in here, you show a degree of toughness, you learn these skills and you, you know, you stay a good human. You know, within this process and and this process teaches you humility, it doesn't matter who the fuck you are out there in here, you are your skills and your application. You've got to demonstrate that.

Speaker 1:

Now obviously doesn't teach everyone humility, but I think generally you could say it yeah no, but I I think even you know, and I, honestly, I I want to sit down with gordon ryan and talk to that guy. You know what I mean. Like I have never had a full conversation with gordon ryan. I've met him one time at adcc and he was getting ready to fight buchesha, you know. So I was like, but no, you know, that was the extent.

Speaker 1:

I'd like to talk to that guy, cause he's so fucking smart and he's so good at jujitsu. Why he behaves the way he does is like I have no idea. So I don't want to actually judge him because I don't fucking know what's going on that guy's head. That guy could be the greatest community leader of all time, but maybe he isn't, you know, and there's different reasons why, whereas you might meet some people out there who are, you've never heard of them and they're the nicest person you ever met and they are a community leader like, I actually think, bernardo ryan walsh yeah, well, I mean someone that comes to mind as just an outstanding human great club.

Speaker 1:

All about the community, everyone's in there, all about his, his students, great coach, all of that. Well, I was going to say actually, bernardo Faria is one of the nicest guys of all time. He's a beast of a competitor and everybody's like. I fucking love Bernardo and he's in some ways he's quite daggy. He's not the coolest guy, but he just owns who he is. He's very unapologetically himself and BJJ fanatics has just become this epic thing off the base of his will to do it and his ability to connect great champions with everyday people and their knowledge.

Speaker 1:

So why I'm so passionate about BJJ, why I am addicted to BJJ, is I have witnessed firsthand, I have felt the chemical rush which got me in and got me frothy. I took on a new identity as part of this community. But there was something else that happened. This is the third thing that I believe is why it is so addictive is the enforced mindfulness of the intensity of jujitsu. You cannot fucking think about anything else when you got somebody sitting on your chest trying to cross choke you. All you can think about is like don't die, don't die, I got to get out of here Like you can't think about your bills, you can't think about anything.

Speaker 1:

You can't think about getting a speeding ticket. There's nothing else in your mind in that moment other than this and mindfulness meditation. It's fuckery. It's such a mess around when you try and sit still.

Speaker 2:

So goddamn boring.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it's boring, but it's also just sitting still, except.

Speaker 2:

I did a little bit yesterday after I had that edible. I found it was quite effective.

Speaker 1:

Dude.

Speaker 2:

Sitting in the sauna, dude, mindful as fuck.

Speaker 1:

Bro, you're up with the aliens, with Joe Rogan is where you fucking were. No, but what I'm saying is this like even someone like so I've heard this mentioned by many people at many different levels in Jiu-Jitsu, but Hoyler Gracie actually said this in a seminar. And Hoyler said look man, I don't know who the champions are here. He's like I don't stay up on it. He's like the door is open, anyone can walk in, anyone can walk out, but you're all here. When you're here, you don't think about the world outside. He said it's like a shower for your mind. It just washes off all the bullshit from out there and you're here.

Speaker 1:

And that is part of the reason why we fall in love with jujitsu, because we just feel this relief and there is some really serious science that shows this actually makes you younger, that mindfulness and meditation makes you younger. So I'm just going to go real quick to something. There is a lady called Elizabeth Blackburn. She actually got the Nobel Prize for proving this shit. We have telomeres which exist within our DNA which basically, when our cells get stressed out and damaged, the telomeres get shorter.

Speaker 2:

They're like these little caps on the end of our dna and basically, I've heard them the analogy of like the little bit of plastic on the end of your shoelace right it stops it unraveling yeah, and the shorter it gets, that leads ultimately to dna breakdown.

Speaker 1:

Right, and there's lots of stuff you can do. We actually talking the other day about people getting older. Joe, can you, can you speak to um? We talked about it yesterday. Did we sing? Singer was? That you no, no no, no, not me specifically, even though I could speak to it. You were. You're telling me a story about a young man who you remember being a boy.

Speaker 2:

And then you see him and you're like oh my god, he's an old man, 33, oh yeah I was talking about, ran into, uh, some people that you I grew up across the road from, and I saw the father who and I was like hey, fuck, been a long time like it's probably been 25 years since I've seen this guy and uh, channing. And then he's like, oh, you remember my son? And I was like in my head I'm like no, I don't. And um, he's like it's my son here. He's this fucking jacked dude like big. I was like, damn, bro, the weights didn't miss you. And he was like it's my son here. He's this fucking jacked dude like big. I was like, damn brother, weights didn't miss you. And he was like, oh yeah, brother, and um, I was like, how old are you? And he's like 33, right, yeah, seven years younger than me. And I'm like, bro, you look like I feel like you just look 10 years older than me in my head, um, clearly on the juice, right?

Speaker 2:

yeah, clearly, just like has aged himself from this growth trajectory yeah um, and you know, whatever looked great like body looked great, you know, it looked huge. But I was like, oh wow, he was a little. He was a little boy when I. That's why I couldn't remember him yeah but yeah. So when you hit the juice and you pump heaps of fucking weights, you speed something up, right, I speed up the aging process.

Speaker 1:

Same thing If you do anything too much you party too much alcohol that can age you. Now we've talked a lot about how, if you take jujitsu too far, that that can age you in terms of damage. But if we talk about the mindfulness thing, the reason why Dr Blackburn got the Nobel Prize was she proved not. Dr Blackburn got the Nobel Prize where she proved not only do we have these telomeres, that you can fucking lengthen them, and that mindfulness actually can repair your telomeres. There's an enzyme called telomerase. This is the thing that she proved with her co-founders, her co-researchers. She's got a book. You want to check it out? You don't believe me. It's called the Telomere Effect. Check it out. She's got a book. You want to check it out? You don't believe me. It's called the Telomere Effect. Check it out. It's cool. But the enforced mindfulness of jiu-jitsu helps keep us younger on the inside. How about that? It's fucking incredible. It's incredible, and I have found nothing else like jiu-jitsu to focus my mind and not get distracted Because I.

Speaker 2:

Joey will speak to this. I get fucking distracted in a split second, oh perish the thought bruh.

Speaker 1:

But when I do jujitsu, I'm focused, man, I'm focused. How about you, joe?

Speaker 2:

if you're training it, not coaching it, you're coaching let me show you 146 techniques um, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

I think, um, I think the the mindfulness thing is like, like, I'm about it. I'm like, yeah, mindfulness meditation it's great for me, it's very boring. It's not something I engage in, except for yesterday when I had that edible. But, um, but like, but generally I couldn't, couldn't really give a fuck, but I find that like a hack right is to do something that consumes all of your attention, and I think that this is maybe what we talk about, like flow states and whatnot. Like yesterday, uh, at the moment when I was eating the edible in my in my garage, I was actually just doing a bit of woodwork just a tiny.

Speaker 2:

I had this idea to build a thing. I was like I got like 40 minutes. I'm like I'm just gonna go do the thing and so I'm, I'm cutting and sanding and doing and I'm like that was a beautiful 40 minutes in the garage and it was. It was extra beautiful because the edible came on as that was happening. But but point being, when you're doing something might be cooking, might be fucking, you know, whatever you like to do um, that it kind of shuts everything else out.

Speaker 2:

Track of time yeah, and so, and it's because your, your whole shit's focused on one thing. I think what I find a bit sort of hard to reconcile about the idea of mindfulness meditation is that in a sense, it implies like a nothingness right, acknowledge and send away and to, and, and I visualize like my, my head being empty, right, right, but I can never get there, whereas you do something like jujitsu and you're like your head's not empty, it's just not crowded, it's all in on jujitsu. One thing, yeah, everything else is gone. And you know, I'm thinking back to like us in the natural environment having fucking saber-toothed tigers and a whole bunch of shit that wants to kill us. Yes, being like being Zen and calm and empty minded was just not a thing Like you need to be anxious, right About, about what's out there.

Speaker 1:

Well, you need to be focused right. There's singular focus, which is kill the tiger. Okay, I missed with the spear. Run away from the tiger. Run away from the tiger, climb, climb, climb, climb.

Speaker 2:

Like this, it can only be that one thing at that time but even that default thing of like where we have anxiety, of like, oh, but what if I fuck? What if I fuck that up? Or I don't know if I want to make that decision, because you know, like, I think that's important because that's the, that's the what's that noise behind the bush, that's the who's coming up behind me, kind of thing. Right, sure, so yeah, I think, having something like jujitsu that allows you to just go to that singular focus, it's beautiful, it's like and you feel the relief you're like it's part of like why was that so fun?

Speaker 2:

one of those layers is well, you weren't thinking that your head wasn't crowded by all this other shit that's always bouncing around inside your head. Yeah it allows.

Speaker 1:

It allows stillness.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't necessarily have to be emptiness yeah so and and I actually believe that people who do jujitsu in a balanced way I mean anything can be taken to excess, right, you can turn fucking anything into heroin. You can turn marathon running into heroin, like if you want to just do it until you wreck yourself, that's fine. But people who have a good relationship with jiu-jitsu, I find that they are happier people and I actually think, ultimately in the future, when there is more people doing jiu-jitsu than not, we will actually have a happier society. I believe that wholeheartedly, and this is the one addiction you should definitely get on board with and share with your friends. Oh, boom, boom, there, it is all right. Folks, if you like this episode and you want other people to see it, like, follow, subscribe and also give us a five-star rating. We appreciate it. Thank you guys, boss, thank you.

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