Bulletproof For BJJ Podcast
This is the official podcast of the Bulletproof For BJJ movement. Hosted by JT & Joey. Each episode the founders break down problems that Jiu-jitsu people experience, giving guidance and tips to improve your training for BJJ. With the goal of helping every body on the Brazilian jiu-jitsu path reduce their chance of injury, improve their strength and mobility to become more resilient.
Bulletproof For BJJ Podcast
Why You Suck at No-Gi Grappling and What To Do About It
Do you struggle with No-Gi grappling? Do mainly train in the Gi but want to improve your No-Gi game?
Recently a friend of the podcast confessed to Joey about sucking at No-Gi. The thing is they are really good in the Gi, so why is the Gap so great? The boys break down exactly why being raised in the Gi can teach you habits that will hurt you when you try to grapple sans pyjama. It's not just an athleticism thing, it's actually a different way of thinking about how to control another human. This may seem obvious on the surface but when all the control you are used to is stripped away, how do you rebuild your game- top and bottom? This episode serves as a different approach for the Kimono Killers to change their game so they can become a No-Gi Ninja.
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Speaker 2:I'm ready. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Bulletproof for BJJ podcast. It's your host, Joey, and I have my co-supporter, JT, in the his house. How are you, son?
Speaker 1:I'm good, I'm pumped for this. Let's go.
Speaker 2:You guys. I don't know if you picked, picked up, but I'm fucking leading the show today. I'm semi-caffeinated, I've got a little bit of food in me.
Speaker 2:I'm probably not as hyped as jt, but I'm gonna do my best let's go have you come to jiu-jitsu, trained a little bit of nogi, made the transition across and realized that your nogi sucks balls. It can happen, it fucking happens. Man, you get in there. It's like, hey, we do a little bit of nogi once every couple of weeks we take the the jacket off and then you're like, oh cool you, I don't know, maybe you join a different gym and these guys just train nogi and you're like, holy shit, my jujitsu is not what I thought it was at all I am getting fucked up right now.
Speaker 2:It happens, man. This came to us from one of our listeners of the show Won't share any names, but was like look, I got some experience in the Gi. I'm a purple belt, I'm half decent, I got a game, and I don't know why he didn't mention why he transitioned across to no Gi as more of a thing. But he's like I was training no-gi like a couple times a year and I'm just getting my ass handed to me.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's a tough thing, ladies and gentlemen, because I believe and we're going to talk this through what you learn as beneficial in the gi is going to hurt you in no-gi. You are learning certain principles and positions like, oh, you're safe here and you can control here and you can chill here, which is not going to happen in no-gi. You are going to absolutely pay for chilling, thinking you have control when you don't, and also probably giving people opportunities you're not even aware is happening. I think that's the thing that I think the guy can, especially if you spend some time there and you feel comfortable there, it can make you lazy, yeah Well let's get, let's get into it and um, I've got kind of five talking points here and I think that these kind of sum it up a little bit.
Speaker 2:Um, first one is you're going to have to rebuild your guard, yeah, so I guess this doesn't apply. Incorrect, tell me what you think, jt. It doesn't apply if you have a. There are universal guards, sure, close guards, half guards, butterfly, that kind of thing. X guard right, that for me, I was an x guard guy and that that transferred across. But like, if you're playing a grip heavy guard like spider or lasso, yep, that's not going to come across well to no-gi.
Speaker 1:It's very difficult and I think the other thing is too when you have the luxury of grips like a sleeve grip, a lapel grip, even a pants grip, like being able to control the cuff of the pants. It just gives you so much leverage and it's so so much easier for you to be able to establish grips and not relax. But then you you can kind of sit on it a bit, yeah, and so then you do take your time more, and I believe that actually, the higher you get up in the jujitsu tree, like the, the rankings, you learn these more advanced guards, but they actually make you athletically lazy.
Speaker 2:Now.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you know this. There's probably a guy like this at your gym, the brown belt, who's kind of got the gut and is kind of a bit lazy but just kills everybody on technique in the gi. Yeah, once he gets a hold of your shit, it's over. Oh man, he's tying you up and you're like this is bullshit. This person isn't even trying and it's really just based on technical understanding. In the gi, you take the gi off and you put them with that athletic blue belt. It's going to be a different story. And look, I know for myself I play a totally different guard game. When I'm in no gi, it's way more active. I'm not lying back, I'm sitting up, I'm wrestling up'm wrestling up. It's seated guard. It's more like I actually don't want to stay on my back at all, like not even on my back. I just I actually feel less comfortable in guard without the gi. It's a, it's a bad situation. I mean, how do you feel from there?
Speaker 2:joey, you, yeah, I mean, I've gotten better at that specific piece, but I, but I used to just be the case that, like, um, I would kind of lie on my back which is a bad habit in the game, right, sure but I would just kind of be like, oh, I'm, I'm the guy with more experience here, I'll just lie on my back and then, dude, would just go and run around me and I'd be like, oh, fuck, yeah, and I'm like, and, and you know, like it exposed the real laziness in my own game, but but, yeah, so, so even now it's yeah, the way the guard works has changed a lot, and so I find that my guard retention in no-gi has had to become a really big focus In order for me just to be comfortable to play a little bit From that position. Yeah, yeah, I feel like this carries through to the next point, well, which is that you are going to lose positions a lot in no-gi. Yeah, yeah, I feel like this carries through to the next point, well, which is that you are going to lose positions a lot. So much In no gi. Oh, dude, and I don't know if you're more in touch with the modern gi game.
Speaker 2:Correct me if I'm wrong, but my impression of how jiu-jitsu was taught to us and I say that I'm looking back, not thinking like out of my coach now, but in the past it was almost like, if you do this shit correctly, like it's perfect, it works perfectly. And so it was like, well, once you get to this position, like you don't lose that position you know what I mean like sure, when you, when you then move to the next step, maybe there's an opportunity for them to escape, but once you've got side control or whatever it's like you choose, when the action takes place, I yeah, I, I would agree with that, but I I think there's a contributing factor which is probably probably underestimated with the gi, which is the friction and the control.
Speaker 1:Even when you don't have specific grip grips in gi, just the friction of, like, your underhook against their gi is awesome, it's amazing. It's like adding chalk to your hands for grip, for the bar. It gives you just 20, 30 more control, even if you're not holding on to them. Yeah, so, man, the control piece is massive because the amount of scrambling and we just see it right, I mean this scrambles in the gi, but it's less, and this is this probably side note, but, like you know, I often you have mentioned, oh gi, jiu-jitsu, so boring, it's because once somebody as in to watch it can't.
Speaker 2:It can be. Yeah, as a spectator, I'm talking, can?
Speaker 1:be yeah, yeah, because once somebody does get a good control of you, it is fucking hard to get out of there. Yeah, like once someone's passed it's difficult and there's nothing to say that you can't scramble, but there's so much more advantage having a belt, having a lapel, all of this stuff. Whether it's passing, controlling your opponent, it's a totally different story. But when it's sweaty and slippery and nogi, you can just bust a move and get out.
Speaker 2:It's surprising so to that point I think, like if you're coming from, if you're coming from more of the gi world, and you're like you, just you have a different perspective, and I'm not saying everybody, of course, but I did. I had a different perspective of control and positions. And so you come to nogi and you lose the position and you're like, fuck, I lost the position. Yeah, what I didn't realize was that, yeah, that's how it works. It happens get back to the position and then get back there again, and then get back there again, and as you're getting back there, getting back there, getting back there, they're fatiguing, sure. And then eventually you reach a like a horizon of, like boom. Now you got them, now you got control. What's the next step?
Speaker 2:yeah but I, I felt like that had to be taught to me, where it was like, yeah, no, it's fine, they're gonna regard pass again, pass again. You know, um paul was the first coach to tell me that explicitly. Like this, like this system that we're using probably won't work against a fresh training partner within the first five minutes, because they're fresh, sure, but once you've hit them with it three times, the fourth time, you might break through, wear them down and I just like I thought, fuck, that conceptually, was never spoken about in the gi, right, and of course I'm thinking, you know, it's an older time, less of a modern approach to jujitsu.
Speaker 1:Maybe. But also, maybe it's just setting an expectation, maybe that's just really important that, even though you might have had success in the gi and you're used to just like, oh, once I pass, it's over, once I get the back, it's over, once you got your hooks in fuck get over. Yeah, but even body triangle for me, what I had learned in the gears, like if you could body triangle someone, they're never getting out but what you see?
Speaker 2:there is no escape. Yeah, that's it. Look at that. How can you undo that game over? Whereas now you get a body triangle on some cart and they're just like ethan krellenstein flip you dip whoo and you're like the fuck.
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Speaker 1:Like it's just. It is entirely different and I think if you're going in there thinking what I did before is going to work, you're wrong. Like I think it's really that simple. It is totally, in my opinion, the way the no-gi game has evolved, whether it's how it's taught or how it's now executed by modern jiu-jitsu practitioners. You can't bring the same thinking from gi to no-gi. You just can't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's kind of a big overarching piece here, isn't it? Like you can't, you've got to be bringing like a different kind of mental approach to it, definitely, yeah. And you know to be fair, like if you're looking at the elite levels of gi training now they would also be, it would be more the same, yes, but I think that's that kind of prevailing old school culture of gi jiu-jitsu that we're talking about and really we would say that probably in the last 10 years, no gi has evolved way more than Gi in terms of competition yes, and if you look at the kind of modern narrative around a lot of different things, whether it's Danaher talking about camping or, for example, you
Speaker 1:get, whether it's the evolution of Tenth Planet Jiu-Jitsu and all the game they play, or you're getting more into the application of wrestling principles, like it's just gotten way harder to be a no-gi person. So if you come in with all those inputs, you now become a tougher grappler than the guy who's just oh, I got my lasso, I'm going to hang out here and be hard to pass.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Third point here you will be punished for different things. You're going to get punished in both, but you'll be punished for different things in no-gi versus the-gi.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I definitely agree with this. Kid Dale actually made a meme many years ago where he was impersonating a famous coach he didn't say who. Many years ago, where he was like impersonating like a famous coach he didn't say who it was, but he was like. He kind of sounded a little bit like Brazilian Arnold. He was like Johnny put in the Deleva Deleva oh no, poor heart, the leg drag, the leg drag, oh no, it's just him yelling over a barrier.
Speaker 1:But that's the thing, like when we see improvements in guards, we then see improvements in passing and even though don't get me wrong you can do like you get a guy like Levi, he does no-gi bolos and talk about outside leg position at De La Riva. That only works for a special individual. Like it's a hard game to play to be on that outside spot. So even though you might have built your, you know, like I was saying about rebuilding your guard, you're probably going to get punished for that and if you put your feet up in the air someone might just enter a leg entanglement. They might go fuck passing. I'm just going to leg lock you, you now. So places where you were safe in the gi, you're getting fucking hammered in no gi, because the priorities are different, and I think that's that's what they don't tell you, joe the dirty secret.
Speaker 2:Like I tell you, it's the same, just it's just a different outfit. Man, yeah, you'll be cool. That machado guy, you know, didn't have the fingers transferred the game, no problem. Full respect, of course, to the machado, so he can. I say that because no?
Speaker 1:no, no, uh, you shouldn't hit me with these technical questions you know I'm struggling your lineage. He was, he can, he can machado no, no, no, no, no, it wasn't anyway. We'll come back to this, but no, no, I'm gonna. I'm gonna search it now because it's embarrassing.
Speaker 2:I haven't had enough caffeine, clearly, but so so yeah, like different things you get punished for. Like here's a fucking thing um leg locks, and we're going to talk more about this, you know, as the fifth point. But if you don't have an understanding of the leg locks situations where you might have been safe in like you're in an ex-guard, jean-jacques- Machado Jean-Jacques, of course, Legend respect.
Speaker 2:Know your lineage, joey and JT. You know someone's got you in an ex-guard, they've got an overhook and you're like I'm good, you know, just fucking fight the hooks and get out of here. And then I'm halfway to mount because they've got my overhook, yeah, but you do that shit in no gi and some cunt's just going to straight footlock you or turn it into yeah, like whatever, like they can go anywhere they want from there.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You're like man. You're actually very much under threat in a situation where in the gi not particularly threatening, necessarily Necessarily and I think we've seen this a fair bit with the you know, and obviously so.
Speaker 1:A good example was, you know, lachlan Giles in 2019. Didn't have success in his weight because Lucas Lepre at that time considered one of the goats, kind of saw Lachlan coming and didn't let him play his leg lock game. But when Lachlan went in the absolute against these big guys, the big guys are like, oh, just pressure forward and smash right, and that's exactly what fucking locky wanted. They just walked in and he went oh, backside 50, 50, motherfucker, boom k guard, see you later.
Speaker 1:But then when we were at the adcc in 2022, we saw that it didn't didn't quite play as well, you know, no one was walking into guard leg locks were not being as effective, yeah, but if we think about someone who maybe you're at a gym and you mainly train in the gi and your coach is like, oh no, no, no, leg locks are dangerous, we don't fuck with that. But then you visit a gym where they do do it, it's so you kind of get so found out, because even the slightest bit of exposure of just walking into someone's guard, even if they don't leg lock you, they'll take you back, they'll like you're at their mercy and they don't need to have that much more knowledge than you. And that's why I think leg locks are so popular, because if you teach a white belt just leg locks, you don't teach them anything else. They can fuck up. Yeah, majority of everyone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, provided they are. They fucking hate those white girls shit. I mean, I love watching them. I hate training with god damn it but yeah, it's, it's I.
Speaker 1:I think it has definitely um opened it up, because even if you look at democratized it, has democratized it a little bit there it's in that way.
Speaker 2:It's a little bit like the uh cryptocurrency of jujitsu jt, and I know that that's a great headline for a future episode.
Speaker 2:But you know that this whole cryptocurrency scam and if you're not familiar with the fact that it is more or less a scam, we can, we can talk about that separate, but, um, the narrative that was attached to crypto was that, like, this will be the biggest redistribution of wealth that we've ever seen. Right, this is where the power gets taken from the elites and the the underdog, who's the everyday person, has an opportunity to to generate, you know, wealth, or take that wealth, um, until it got popular. Well, that's exactly right. And then the banks are like, yo, we should buy crypto, we need to invest in this. Yeah, right, um, but that's, in a way, what, like that was the promise in crypto. However, it delivered in leg locks. It did Whereby I went oh, like, you're a black belt with 15 years experience. I'm a white belt with six months experience, but I'm going to tap you out multiple times anyway, yeah, and it just indicates the holes in the knowledge you know.
Speaker 1:I Definitely I even find for myself if I spend a bit of time training in the gi it is really hard, like you have to work so hard for your grips and all these things, but it kind of makes you relax in positions where you should not and you've just got your foot up on someone's hip like it's fine here. Then they just hit you with the esteem a lot.
Speaker 2:you're like, oh my god you know the heel hook and then you get a steamer.
Speaker 1:You know you have to be so much more defensively tight and aware. In no-gi you do, and if you're not, you're getting fucked up. Do you think generally? Yeah, totally, I really believe that, because it's a faster game.
Speaker 2:Because the submissions can be applied. It's a faster game.
Speaker 1:Especially in the leg work Scrambly.
Speaker 2:Do you think that still applies with upper body attacks?
Speaker 1:In ways it depends there's less places to hide. Look, if somebody's very good at defense, in no gi and I want to stay on the leg lock thing, because that's where we kind of came at this point If someone's really good at defending-.
Speaker 2:Well, no, this was punished for different things. Oh sorry, punished for different things, but foot like leg position.
Speaker 1:Foot position in the gi generally you're like, if I can control their arms, they can't go to my legs. Yeah, but you can't just infinitely hold on to someone's wrist like if it's sweaty and it's happening, like even if you're the strongest dude like it, they can just slip out. Yeah, and I think if you're the strongest dude like, they can just slip out. Yeah, and I think if you're not really tight in your attacks, the person would just slip out Like an arm bar is not a sure thing in no key. And if you're not really tight in your defenses, you can get caught very easily. Yeah. And there's, there's these things that just which seem like not a problem in the gay, are a fucking bad habit in no gi. You are going to get absolutely someone's going to jump through your guard and far side arm by you. They don't actually need to establish side control. I mean, I think even craig did a youtube video.
Speaker 2:That was pretty good, true, like the rolling kimura, yeah, yeah just leap over the guard, which is like you know you know, great works really well, modern jujitsu folks don't really use side control.
Speaker 1:Like side control isn't so much a thing, it's more about the back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and B-Team were the first to say that. Right, really, like it doesn't exist. They don't use it in that way. Yeah, it's true. Like they don't get submissions from there. No, it's either mount or back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or leg locks, or whatever it might be. So it's just really interesting that it's difficult. It's difficult because you set some rules in your mind and you're like right, I'm good here. No, you're not. And if no one has actually said to you, hey, there's a difference, it's a shock, it's cognitive dissonance. You're like I thought I knew jujitsu. What the fuck is this? It's a different game, folks. We've got to open our eyes up, and if you didn't know, now you know player.
Speaker 2:And I think, just to appease some of the gi people which are currently rolling in their grave.
Speaker 1:No, I'm a gi guy.
Speaker 2:No, I put the gi on for gratings.
Speaker 1:You sell out no yeah, it's pretty much the same time I put it on. Joey ties his black belt around his parry.
Speaker 2:Rash guard, yeah, I mean, I did do that in the beginning.
Speaker 1:I wore that shit on my no-gi gear for three months.
Speaker 2:I think, wanker, you will get punished in the gi as well for certain things Like, say, framing right Like no-gi, you can frame pretty hard. Like you can frame pretty hard, like you can be pushing your limbs out there and know that you're a little bit Guy. You do shit like that. You start bringing the elbow from the midline, motherfuckers are unbarring you all day, yeah yeah. So it's just different things. But the dilemma there for you, the practitioner, is that you will just have this. You won't even know consciously what these things are. You just have a way of acting when you're training because you're being safe and whatever, and you will apply that same framework to the other and it won't work. It won't apply.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2:Next one lower belts are going to bash you. Oh God, now look, can't happen. The point we're making here, not so much the belt discussion, but more the idea that you come like there's a pecking order, right, there's a hierarchy, you kind of know where you sit and say, for old mate who's coming in, purple belt, you know, probably been in a couple years of experience yeah right, like knows what, like a purple belt is a problem for anyone?
Speaker 2:yeah, right. And so they now come to this, this class, and you could almost just say it's like. It's like you've come to a new gym, yeah, right, and now that where you were in the pecking order doesn't apply, yeah, and you're going to find that. And it's not a problem when people who are above you in the pecking order in your mind beat you up because you expect that they're better than me. Who's like a white belt, who's been in the class for 10 months, and they're fucking and you can't escape their leg entanglements and they're repeatedly like heel hooking you.
Speaker 2:That's mentally quite challenging. Vexing, vexing. Yeah, it's a, it's a fucking dilemma, right, and so the thing there? Right, it's gonna happen. That's the first thing you acknowledge. My point to make is that you just got to be okay with it and you've got to. You've just got to be okay with it and you've just got to acknowledge that. Okay, I'm not very good at this specific thing right now, this skill set. I need to close up my gaps in this shit and then we can restore balance to the pecking order.
Speaker 1:And come back and smash them all. We hope, yeah, you spend that 10 months there on those Danaher instructionals and then you win.
Speaker 2:You pull that white belt aside, man, you know, I think what would help your game would be really train more in the gi, brother. You know, just the grips and the posture. Slow it down, don't roll as hard man you know people wear jackets when they go out at night. You know it's actually very practical. And then, before you know it, they're fucked off and you're good again look, this is how you defend the knife attack.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't, I don't think so. I I'm, I'm with you, man. I think that the the other aspect of this is that we, as humans, we only have so much like mental energy, mental bandwidth, so we become mentally lazy. We kind of we look at a piece of information like, oh, closed guard is this box? Okay, park it, I've got a couple of ideas there. Or half guard is this? Yeah, I kind of get that, you know. And and then we just we kind of leave it and sometimes we go back and we open that box when we need it, but it's rare that we go hang on.
Speaker 1:No, this is the wrong, this is the wrong box. I've put the fucking put the put the milk in a fucking cardboard container. It's leaked everywhere, like it's. You've got to really readdress your thinking, and so, whether it's your working with a new coach, new gym, or you're working with new training partners, like ask them questions Like this might sound strange, but like I actually asked Craig Jones a lot of questions when we used to train together because he was bringing information back from DDS. Why would that sound strange? Well, maybe people think that I don't respect Craig's jiu-jitsu which is not true.
Speaker 1:I respect his jiu-jitsu. He's very, very, very good at jiu-jitsu, even though he says he's not. He plays it down. He's very specific about why he does a certain thing and he will say no, I put my knee like this to control the hip like this, or why are you doing that? That's, that just doesn't work here, you know, and it and it's because he's very blunt and he's very direct about, like, his own opinions on jujitsu. It just cuts through the bullshit about certain details and I think at that time I was kind of falling into the habits of, oh, but it worked in the gi, you know, and he was just doing purely just straight up no-gi and he's like, no, that doesn't apply here and until someone has fucking told you you will keep making those mistakes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, told you and probably submitted you numerous times.
Speaker 1:You're like okay, I'll consider it. I tell you, what's worse is when somebody gets you in a submission and then just kind of.
Speaker 2:It's like they kind of let it go. They've done it too many times they know Like oh got it.
Speaker 1:I'll transition to sub.
Speaker 2:I need a challenge.
Speaker 1:No, do it Kill me? Oh, it's not. Actually, I find it way more embarrassing for somebody to like let go of a sub, like no, please, oh yeah, like I would prefer that you just do the business, you know. But anyway, I'm I'm someone who loves to learn, so it wouldn't even matter if it was somebody who, uh, you know, is a white belt and they're masterful at heel hooks, and I don't know that. Like, where did you learn it? Or can you show me your details, because they might have had the time and the mental bandwidth to do it that you haven't and that could save you time always.
Speaker 2:So there's there's that too. So, like our last point we kind of covered already, which was that leg locks will expose you, right. So I'm thinking like one one practical, a practical thing that that I did, which, once I resigned myself to doing this, helped my gi jiu-jitsu improve a lot, uh, but it took me a lot of time to like fucking do it. Yes, right, which was identify the things that I'm getting submitted with or caught with constantly, because usually it's not that many things. It's like I'm getting choked from the back, I'm getting inside heel hooked from, you know, a fucking leg entanglement, let's say it's those two things.
Speaker 2:Sure, so you're like, okay, I'm going to learn defenses for those. Yeah, and as soon as you can learn the defenses, then you don't have to be so concerned about ending up there and the game continues. Yeah, and I feel like that's a really huge unlock. So, like for old mate um, find the things that are catching you out and fucking fix those things, because then you can start to experiment a bit more and have a bit of freedom, you can feel safer, yeah, and I, and I feel like, um, and tell me what you think of this, I feel like in gi jiu Jitsu, because of the guard and because of how the Gi works, being like really defensively sound was not always such an emphasis, whereas in no Gi because the threat of submissions is I feel like it's very high I could be really wrong in saying this, but I feel like the threat of submissions is kind of high and they come more frequently.
Speaker 1:So the modern approach to no Gi Jiujitsu is everyone gets really defensively sound maybe like from an early stage but potentially I I'm not I don't know exactly how to respond to that in the sense that so, so, for the longest time, like leg locks were kept out of higher level jujitsu in terms of the game. But then there was a critical point where it's like no, no, no, brown and black belt leg locks. No, no, we'll allow it. You know the international body and so yeah, so then it's like wow, when you're a brown and black belt, you can do these dark arts and blah, blah, blah. And what I found was actually including leg locks in jujitsu, which started to come in for me around purple brown. It just made my awareness bigger. You know, just opened up a piece of the map I didn't see before.
Speaker 1:And probably speaking to your point, joe, is that if you already have that awareness from white belt, defensively, you're better. You're already aware that they might heel hook you or they're going for a leg entry here. So here is the counter, et cetera, et cetera. I think the more you can get exposed to the specific attacks, defenses and controls you need, the better. The problem is just by living in the gi, you've been blinded, you had the blinkers on and now you've got to open those eyes up and really don't bring your gi biases to the no-gi game. There possibly was a time when you could get away with it. That time, I believe, is not now.
Speaker 2:Long gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we've got to just accept different game. It's cool because it's new knowledge, and just fuck if you're getting taps. You've got to just work on that game and fix up.
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