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CJI vs ADCC - Which Tournament is best?

JT & Joey Season 4 Episode 373

Can a million-dollar prize really change the game in jiu-jitsu? Join us as we explore the electrifying contrasts between the CJI and ADCC events. From the intense, singular focus of the CJI crowd reminiscent of a UFC fight night to the somewhat scattered energy at ADCC with its multiple matches and overwhelming venue, we dissect how different environments shape the spectator experience. We share our firsthand experiences and opinions on which tournament is THE BEST. 

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Speaker 1:

A good martial artist does not become tense, but ready. Essentially, at this point, the fight is over, so you pretty much flow with the goal. Who is worthy to be trusted with the secret to limitless power? I'm ready. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another Bulletproof for BJJ podcast. I'm JT minus a beard and I'm here with Joey with the beautiful hair.

Speaker 1:

Cji versus ADCC the recap we were there. We were live. Lots of dorks on the internet who were not there are telling you how it was. That's some BS, friends. We're going to tell you firsthand. You saw the footage. You know it's real. Joey. Cji versus ADCC. We got day one like 10 plus hours of CJI and then the next day we went to ADCC. We got day one like 10 plus hours of CJI and then the next day we went to ADCC.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, how was the initial impression for you? Try not to just jump on the CJI bandwagon, right? I'm trying. Let's stay objective here. I'm trying. No, don't, but just first impressions.

Speaker 1:

First impressions were that CJI was a much more entertaining event. Yeah, much more entertaining. The fact that there was this was pivotal for me. This was the thing. Okay, aside from all the glitzy, you know, super fights and Craig Gabby, all that shit. It was the fact that there's one fight at a time, yep, shit, it was the fact that there's one fight at a time, yep, and the entire stadium is watching one fight. Yeah, and there's this collective it's like ufc, right. Yeah, everyone's tuned in to these two people engaging in the thing. And then, and you know, like that's like, you're like, yeah, I'm used to this, this is kind of like a sports event. And then you get to adcc and there's three fights going on, yeah, and you're like, oh fuck, everyone's attention, attention is split, and you're watching the screens and there's too much on. There's like they're trying to show you three fights and then this fight ends and they start getting applauded in that little corner and you're like, oh, what happened down there? And then you know fighters come out, but you don't know they came out cause you're watching the other fight, like you're watching the other fight, like it.

Speaker 1:

Just, I felt like there was a real dilution of of the energy. Yeah, adcc, now I'm with you. 100. I was just saying this before. There's something to where the crowd goes quiet, the hush. You've got thousands of people and, because of the intensity of the moment, there's fucking silence, yeah, which is that's powerful right brings everyone's attention in, everybody's like what's gonna happen. And then boom, there's a big, powerful right brings everyone's attention in, everybody's like what's gonna happen. And then boom, there's a big back take and everyone's like whoa, like, so you get that. You're like I'm part of this energy, whereas, definitely so, if we think about the progression for adcc, we'll unwind a little bit.

Speaker 1:

If back in 2019, all the way back in the day, I went to that one and that was in Anaheim and I think there was about 3000 people there, maybe three and a bit, and that felt pretty big because it was kind of stadium vibes and they did the drummers and the flames and it was like, wow, this is cool. Then, 2022, when I went to las vegas thomas and mac it was like whoa, it's like over 10 000 people here, maybe, whatever, it was 14, however many thousand people. You're like this is a stadium event and even at that time, I felt like us being there in 2022. It was hard to pay attention to all the matches. Yeah it, it was a great vibe, the energy was good, but it was really hard to keep track. I mean, it was the best jiu-jitsu event there was right. So you're like this is fucking sick, yeah, but this last one, literally being at an event that was like a better, like a more entertaining event on one day and then the next day being at the substandard entertaining event, you're like, oh shit, it's like the law of contrast. It was just too too too different.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and and the other thing I'd say on that is, if you follow the logic of the adcc and what mo was trying to do is like I'll get t-mobile, that will be better. It was not. Let me tell you, t-mobile was too big. There's not actually an atmosphere there and they're constantly just playing whatever five tracks of whatever the popular remix. Oh, the fucking song is the whole time. The beats they were playing were fucking like the bass was so heavy, yes, and you're like trying to watch them, but you've just got this. Yeah, I don't want to sound like an old cunt, but but but it was, yeah, like that. That really detracts from what you're trying to engage in, right, which is watching people get after it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think the other thing about it, too, was you might have missed, like you were saying, you might have missed a submission on a mat at the ADCC, and then everyone's like, hey, and you're like, oh, what happened? And then Flow Sports doesn't play the replay. There's no replay there. You're like as in, like that, because the big screen at the stadium, right, yeah, they might have been focused on something else, yeah, and so at least we'd say, like a UFC event or something like that, if there's a big knockout, they play it back in slow-mo, much to the sadness of the person who got knocked out. But you know, you're like, oh, show that again. Yeah, they did not do that. That flow sports.

Speaker 1:

I feel like their media coverage wasn't great there. I mean, I was. Was that, would that be a flow? So are they handling the media in the stadium? All of it, all of it, yeah, but jt's always looking for an opportunity to fucking dig the knife into flow. No, whatever, like I just think, no, no, no, no, they do their thing. It doesn't mean they're doing the best job, you know? Um, so I I guess just one thought in ADC's defense is that they have such a huge number of matches they've got to get through Because they've got so many divisions, right, so many divisions, yeah, so it's like so CJR had the benefit of only having two divisions, of course, so it could go one fight at a time and even with that it was still a long day, right Day one.

Speaker 1:

Day two was a lot more kind of manageable from a like. In terms of like, it was a much more easy day to watch, yeah, felt, but adcc have got so many to get through that it's like there's a bit of a dilemma that I was thinking about. It's what adcc was, was like just a kind of it's your standard, um, indoor sports court jujitsu tournament on steroids, yeah, but it's the same literally. Yeah, everybody is on steroids. Um, yeah, let's get to that right, the old guard coming back fucking 20 years younger, but, um, so in that way it's like got this huge volume of humans it has to move through. And I was like, fuck, how do you like, how do you do a better job? It almost needs to be either like a four-day event or it needs to do. It needs to get maybe some of those earlier matches out of the way as a separate qualifying thing and then be like ADCC is like semis and finals or quarter semis and finals.

Speaker 1:

So this is what I wanted to say about ADCC versus CJI. Even though I didn't see the backstage in person. I saw footage from the backstage of CJI, but I was backstage at ADCC. It was not great for the athletes. That's what I would say. Which one For ADCC? Right, I would say that with CJI, obviously you're saying they've got a smaller volume of athletes to look after, but it's basically a series of rooms and mat space and all the athletes and coaches are all crammed in together. I was backstage. I was helping Fabio Colloi warm up and get him prepared for his match.

Speaker 1:

He fought PJ Bartsch first round, lost by a pass. That can happen. Pj Bartsch did an easy one. I thought he would have taken that. Well, pj's still pissed off from when we tried to get him onto our V vlog three years ago. No, I think he's like oh, you're JT's boy, it's done. They're actually friends. That's the funny thing. I saw the interaction between them. Bj's fucking great, by the way. I love I don't know about his perp, but I love watching. But it's just, it's the nature. You've got to fight your mates, right, it doesn't matter, it's kind of the game, isn't it? Yeah, you're all champions. You're all there to get it done.

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Speaker 1:

But I got to be backstage and I got to see that and I would say the athlete experience at ADCC was not that great Because of, like the room and shit, the warm-up space, yeah, it's kind of narrow and jammed and the mats weren't properly put together and it's just like you do what you can as an athlete, right. But here's something else a lot of people don't know Because of the media spectacle of ADCC and they have the big screens and the fireworks and all this stuff. They actually make the athletes warm up and they're like, all right, you got to go, you got to go, and then they make you go and sit separately. So I've kind of followed Fabinho with this. The coaches have to stand over here and then, all right, athletes, you go, stand behind that stage for 40 minutes and cool down. Oh wow, it was garbage. And then they're on the side of the mats waiting for the no, they're not even on, so they're behind that big stage with the screen, okay, and then once they call you, you go out, right, but it's really.

Speaker 1:

The adcc is really good in post-production. In the reality of the experience for the athletes, I think it's pretty crap. Yeah, right, like I don't think that's particularly good, whereas I had spoken to a couple of the athletes who'd competed at CJI and they had a great time, yeah, and I think, definitely by virtue of it being smaller and probably, craig, giving more consideration to them, like not spending money on the big show, making it more athlete-centric, they had a better experience. You know, and you would have to think too that the fact that everyone was so frothy on CJI and on the million-dollar prize money that all the athletes would have just been coming in with a like it wouldn't have mattered how good or bad the scenario was from there, but like we're fucking here for it. This is sick. Whatever man, I'll drink the tap water, I'll do the warm-up on the concrete floor. No problem, craig. Yeah, you know, but I think, based off you know, I briefly spoke to Dima, dima Marovani, who was the B-team coach.

Speaker 1:

He's a huge unit. By the way, I have no idea how tall he is. I've been enjoying his content and been watching a little bit of his vlog stuff, bro. He's almost taller than Hodgkinson. Really Like he's so tall. Wow, he's a huge frame, is he? Is he German? I'm not sure it could be. I apologize, excuse my ignorance. He's just a very nice. He's just a friendly guy. I had a good chat to him and also spoke to Kenta. Kenta's pretty easy going anyway, yeah, but Kenta, he liked the backstage. Nikki Ryan said it was really good, yeah, and Tackett also said had a great like. They just got treated exceptionally well, wow. And I think this is the biggest thing. At the end of the day, there is no show without the athletes. Craig took care of the athletes and therefore also got a great show.

Speaker 1:

Everyone it's like and I'm not someone who's a proponent of betting, but when you know there's fucking a million dollars on the line, it's big stakes that changes a person's life, right. Yeah, I mean you'd say $100,000 would, but with inflation maybe not, but a million, $1 million, it's legit. Yeah, and you saw that intensity in the CJI, I believe. And it's not that the ADCC folks aren't working really hard. They are, they're all. Everyone wants to be champion, but there's something about that. Giving that opportunity to the athletes is special.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was thinking about it at the time Like we were watching some match. I can't remember what match it was, but I was having a conversation with someone about. You know, cgi had the same things. It had much less stalling right. We saw a lot less of that classic ADCC stalling for the first 10, 15 minutes, go for the takedown at the end. Yeah, but it did still have some boring matches right which are kind of a stylistic thing. It's a style matchup.

Speaker 1:

But I was talking with someone about how, you know, even when there's a million bucks prize money, you're still kind of doing the best you can and often you just can't make shit happen, right, like if you look at I don't know if you remember hulk and and joseph chen, yeah, but like second round it was a real stalemate and joseph didn't do anything and hulk didn't do any. I think hulk like maybe shot a couple of times. No, it's just the stars are neutralized. It's not that they're not doing anything, just no, no one advanced exactly and so, um, you know, in that way I'm like the, the prize money didn't. Actually, it's not like it extracted a better performance in that moment from the athletes, because you go to adcc and everyone's fucking they're going as hard as they can, right, sure, like people are doing everything they can.

Speaker 1:

But what I felt, what I feel would have been and it would be interesting to talk to one of the athletes about this um, are we gonna have adele on, by the way? Uh, we, we, we. I interviewed adele before. We can definitely get adele back on. We're going to get Jacob Driscoll on. Oh wow, who was cornering for Adele? That'd be sick and has very much been in her corner for a long time. I'd love to chat with Jake. He'll let us know what the first hand is.

Speaker 1:

But so the but what I think would have been a real shift for the athletes is having the whole crowd watch your match and be energetically engaged in your match versus ADCC. When you're like I mean, I don't even know if they're aware of this at the time, but it's like the whole crowd isn't watching your match, not necessarily, people's attention is all over the place, and so I'm just thinking back like you're there, you're in the middle of cji, you have an exchange, everyone cheers and you feel that, yeah, and I'm like, fuck that, surely, like you think about the tackett and ruatolo match, you're like, surely that fucking just was like sprinkling, like I don't know, some kind of stardust on the thing. Yeah, you know, to make just to g you up as a, as a fighter, yeah, as in just a general experience, like great, great, you know, whether they be footballers and soccer players or American football, whatever. That atmosphere, almost like the Coliseum. Yeah, the cheering is so loud it's very overwhelming. But what I want to talk about now is format, because this is something that needs to be discussed.

Speaker 1:

The old format, which was considered to be just kind of the way, the ADCC format, which is the kind of the five minutes, no points, five minutes, points, 10 minutes over time kind of deal, and then in finals it's even longer, I think it's 20 minutes. This can result in some boring matches and let's I don't know if we want to call it the uh, fight sports tactics or what we want to call it, but basically classic wagner and cyborg stall, stall, stall, stall, stall, push you out, push you out, push you out, get a takedown in the last two minutes and then just hold you down, yeah, like this happened over and over and over again, and credit to those guys for winning their matches, but this is actually terrible to watch, like, um, yeah, it's super annoying because you know it's going to happen and and because it keeps going out of bounds. I keep getting reset, keeps going out of bounds, keep getting reset. Right, the format for cji, with the five minute rounds, with the break, and I'm I'm not just talking the round timing here, but also the alleyway there wasn't really resetting. No, you can't go out of bounds and make it look like an accident. You actually have to sprint up a hill and turn around, yeah. So it's like I think there might have been a couple of moments where someone almost went out, but it was legit right, someone's trying to push them out, yeah. Whereas, yeah, that whole fucking gamesmanship at ADCC of like, oh whoops, we went out of bounds and then the 60-second reset, yeah, it's very tiresome and I actually think the wall at CJI, like the alleyway, the angle didn't get used as much as it could have, but the interesting thing I observed was people getting pinned against it. In the similar way in the ufc you get a good jujitsu guys trying to work from the bottom and they're jammed against the cage. Yeah, people's heads were cranked like they couldn't. Yeah, like once you were kind of once your head was cranked, you can't really use your hips much, you can't move, and so it was. Actually.

Speaker 1:

It brought a different game, not just in the dynamic nature of someone like Tackett jumping off the wall and jumping on Cade's back or anything like that. Or who was it against Rockhold? Who fucking threw Rockhold? Pat Downey, pat Downey, he just tossed him all over the place. Yeah, you're like whoa, I think dude's going to fly out of the alleyway. Nicky Rod got tossed up the wall as well by Big Boy what's his name? Not H alleyway, it was. Nikki rod got tossed up the wall as well by, um, big boy, what's his name? Not hosha, the other guy, owen was it? Owen loves it. No, no, it was the big, the big brazilian guy. Um, there was hosha and then there was the other guy. He got beaten by nikki rod in that, in that match. But yeah, he counter wrestled him and yeah, like wizard him and like fucking threw him into the wall and you're like god, that's the dynamic nature of it. It is is a different game. Now, it hasn't been done before, but how interesting to think that combat karate could provide a tournament ring format, which would be so good for jiu-jitsu, and Craig Jones would be the guy to be like. I'm going to use that, you know, because in truth, a lot of people on the internet are talking about how that structure makes for a much more exciting match, not just in the round timing, but in what's going on. Yeah, yeah, I thought it was. I thought it was great. Yeah, the.

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Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, can we talk about the round timing? We should. This is what we're doing now. Yeah, okay. So, yeah, it was. And the round-by-round scoring too. Yes, so the open scoring, right. So if you're listening, you're not catching that. At the end of each round it was up on the big screen what was on the judges' scorecards. So each judge had to award a winner and a loser of each round using the 10-point must. Yeah, similar to the UFC or boxing. So you got a bit of an idea of where the match is at. Yeah, like, oh fuck, you won that round. Yeah, okay, coming in Two to one. It's one and one, all right. Coming into this third, you know, someone's got to make it happen. Yeah, that was sick. They could have simplified that instead of giving all three, but you know. But anyway, it was great.

Speaker 1:

I did think that the round format of three five-minute rounds for regular matches and then five five-minute rounds for the finals, I thought, with a one-minute rest between rounds. I thought, man, I don't know about this, because that classic thing of jiu-jitsu, right, and if we took it, say, gordon's game. It's always been like wear them down over the first 10, 15 minutes and then go for the kill right once they're fatigued. And so, looking at a match, you're like three five-minute rounds with a one-minute rest. You're like I reckon everyone's going to be able to just not get submitted because you're going to be less fatigued than usual. It breaks the momentum, yeah, but it didn't play out that way. No, and and what I?

Speaker 1:

What I felt watching it and I think rockhold and downy was a good example of this was that for the person who was like if it was an equal, even match, then it was fine, no rule change. But if there was like someone dominating and someone on the on the bottom end, it got worse. Yeah, because that person who's just got their ass kicked for five minutes goes off and has to sit there for a minute and think about how they just got their ass beat for the last five minutes. Yes, and fucking stress about the next five minutes. You know, and and I was thinking about when you're rolling and you're having a bad day and you, you know, and you got, you had a tough round and you got another tough one coming up, or you reset right, you're getting dominated in a round and then you go out of bounds and you fucking come to tie your belt. Take that little fight sports moment and you're just thinking like, oh man, two and a half minutes left, this is going to suck and it usually does unless you can turn it around mentally right, but so yeah, so it actually ended up. I thought Making it harder for the losing person and for the person who's doing good. It's like, fuck, no problem, man, like, let's go refresh and come back and kick some ass.

Speaker 1:

I actually think the athletes were more tired. I'll be honest, I think at the end of two rounds with the break, the athletes were way more cooked than with the ADCC format. Yeah, like, if you're good at and for those of you out here you know, you probably had this experience where if you have enough skill or size to neutralize your opponent's attacks, you're kind of not using as much energy as them. So a good example of this was Isaac, michelle versus Cyborg in the Absolute Fuck. Isaac brought the energy on that. One was going, sprinted back to the side. He's like, let's do this, you know, and it was great. But cyborg just kept just using enough energy to not neutralize, neutralize, neutralize and then just kind of counted him in the last kind of three minutes to to get the points, and yeah, and then he's a very hard guy to get off you right, yeah. And so you could not do that at the CJI, like you just couldn't hold somebody down and think this is going to be the end of the match. It's not like that, because you're going to have a break, you're going to have to reset and you're going to have to go again.

Speaker 1:

And I actually think the intensity for the athletes in CJI they were going harder in that short window, which actually meant they got more tired, as opposed to someone trying to pace themselves for 10, 15 minutes. It's a good point because if you think about, like, if you think about your approach to say, training, when coach is like, hey, we're doing, uh, 12 minute rounds today, you, you immediately pull back a little bit, preserve, right, yeah. Whereas it's like, hey, we're doing five minute rounds, 45 second rest, it's 12-minute rounds today, you immediately pull back a little bit, preserve, right, yeah. Whereas when it's like, hey, we're doing five-minute rounds, 45-second rest, you're sprinting, let's go, and so, yeah, it's like they're doing three fights Like this fight, next five minutes and the next five minutes. Yeah, so you do. Yeah, the intensity's up and you know, I think a really fucking.

Speaker 1:

I'm not trying to advise ADCC on what they should do here, but here's what you should do. Moja Sim, just so you know. Yeah, the not having referees give out fucking penalties. Yeah, like I just don't understand that. We saw that, right, we saw it. Joseph and Hulk got. He's like, hey, this is your last warning. I'm going to take a point off both you guys. Like I just don't get why there's not more of that in ADCC to drive action. Maybe it is the fact that it's a longer kind of single engagement, but to me that just like, I feel like that could make it so much better in terms of the spectacle. Yeah, definitely Like shutting down guys and I'm not trying to hang shit on Cyborg and Wagner, know, in most other competitions, who both got silver medals, by the way, in their categories, which is amazing, amazing, remarkable. Yeah, and uh, levato jr too, right, oh, yeah, shut up. Yeah, the three old boys, um, who are possibly younger than both. That's right. Yeah, it says here your biological age is 19, um, but so like, yeah, I just I think like fucking penalizing those guys to drive more action would have totally changed the dynamic of their matches. Now, credit to them because they know the rule set and they play extremely well, very well. So you can't hold that against anyone, but I'm like. I just it feels dated to me that they don't have more penalties being handed out.

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Speaker 1:

And I think about both competitions the CJI and the ADCC from the audience's perspective, being there in the stadium. I don't know if you watched it over the internet. Good for you, good luck to you. Yeah, jt doesn't respect you. No, no, no, I respect everybody equally, but if you're a pundit watching it on the internet telling like, this is how it was at the competition, shut up, dork, come see me. The amount of people on the internet who are like this is how CJI was. You weren't there, I didn't see you Get lost. So really it doesn't matter if you're in the audience or you're the athlete.

Speaker 1:

I believe it is the promoter's responsibility to just put on the best event you can for both parties, and I feel that's where CGI won, and I can't help but think that it's difficult to imagine, because I don't know what it takes to put on such a big event. Craig obviously had a bunch of help there, which is fantastic, which allowed him to be the promoter and the entertainer that he is, and I think that is what is lacking at the ADCC. So let me mention this you can have the big screens and it looks amazing. Right, you've got the big image of someone coming up and fireworks and they jog down, but the format is kind of the same, whereas what was very interesting or different about the cji is they're like now we're gonna raffle off a miata, whoo, you're like what the hell? Like it was. That's gordon's miata. Yeah, it was. It was.

Speaker 1:

There was a humor to it. It was that sprinkling in of like entertainment, yeah, and it's like craig doing the stripper pants like, yeah it's, it's designed for you to not get bored. There's an a wwe kind of wrestling entertainment to it, theatricality, which actually you need in a show. If you're going to sit there for 10 and a half hours or you know whatever. Whatever it is, you need something that's going to.

Speaker 1:

Oh shit, this is happening, not just the matches, and so I feel that that is something they definitely put time and energy into in the CJI, and that is even though they put a lot of money into the stadium at T-Mobile for ADCC, it felt empty, like the atmosphere wasn't there. You didn't get that same level of excitement unless it was like a finals match, yeah, where they just zero in on on one match. Yeah, yeah, finals, finals and semis right, it's just the one. Super fights, yeah. And then also there was no favoritism. Uh, actually, no, I, okay.

Speaker 1:

So gordon r Ryan got mystery two points against Philippe Penner. Yeah, that was odd, that was pretty weird. And Philippe Penner looked great and Gordon looked not as great, yeah, right. And so I was stoked to see Philippe looking good out there, won his division and shit, won his category and apparently had been vomiting a lot the day before. Who's not vomiting the day before right had been unwell. Well, that's what Fabinho said. We're all in Vegas. I don't think he was fighting Different reasons.

Speaker 1:

But that's an interesting thing for me, because you do see these little bits of favoritism, like PJ Bartsch beat Mika Galvan Like that's the amount of chat about that on the internet About he brought Mika down to the ground, the amount of chat about that on the internet about he brought Mika down to the ground and then somehow Mika won this decision when PJ had kind of out-wrestled him. Oh, we saw that, didn't we? Yeah, I remember, and yeah, it was zero and Mika got his hand raised. It's like, oh, what the fuck just happened there? Yeah, definitely, pj looked more dominant, and so there were a lot of people in the industry.

Speaker 1:

What's going on here? Because the ADCC does have a vested interest in their champions. Now it's the first year of the CJI, but they don't have a favorite. You know, they're just like. I mean, obviously Craig would love to see anyone from his team win, but it's all you know. It's like roll the dice, right, it's whatever makes the best show. And so I feel it's a free market, it is dice, right, it's whatever makes the best show, and so I feel free market, it is a free market. That's why these, this dirty disruptor, has come through and thrown a spanner in the works. But, um, the? The last thing I kind of want to go to here is why the cji wins, because this is why wins what?

Speaker 1:

As an event, as an event as an event, it as an event as an event. It's really important, I think, for Brazilian jiu-jitsu, for things to evolve, and things have not changed for a long time, like the ADCC has been very similar for a long time. Craig deciding to do this event in his style, in his way, put pressure on the ADCC to change, and so that's the tide that lifts all boats, and now we've had this comparison. Even people who are not there shout out dorks could see it was better over the internet, right? So that's so interesting. People watching online were like this is great.

Speaker 1:

Now, I don't know if Craig will make it free next time, because it was just streamed on YouTube, which is cool, but he might want. Craig will make it free next time because it was just streamed on youtube, which is cool, but, um, you know, he might want to get some money for that next time. Well, b team's making the money right, yeah. Youtube revenue, yeah, sure, sure. But but what about 1.5 million views for day one, I think, yeah, after 48 hours? Yeah, it was, it was a lot Decent, yeah.

Speaker 1:

But if we think about this, not only is the audience enjoying it, the athletes are enjoying it, it also says to the world hey, you can get a million bucks doing jiu-jitsu. Now, I don't know if that can be repeated I hope it can but that actually raises the bar and the expectation for what a jiu-jitsu athlete can expect, and that's awesome. That's why CJI wins. That changes the game. That sends our message to all sports. Even UFC fighters are like shit, I want a million bucks, how do I get in on that? And I don't got to get punched in the face. Yeah, that's crazy. So if we think about it, even though you might look at it as just promotion and just spectacle, that as a flag in the ground, as a line in the ground, as a flag for jujitsu folks in general, the status of the game has been raised and now the expectation is higher. So either the ADCC has got to step up and do a better job of looking after the athletes or I think we can see the CJI format becoming maybe the preeminent way to do tournaments.

Speaker 1:

Look at that, fuck. I mean I couldn't handle Vegas every year. I can't do it bro. I'm just telling you right now you haven't got the Craig Jones business. I didn't even get that lit up. I'm just like it's a lot. It's a lot, bro, it's a lot, and I think people will choose like we did both right. So we cji both days, adcc both days. It was, and they overlapped by one day and it's yeah. To give you the content, it was friday, saturday, cji. Saturday, sunday, adcc. And Friday, saturday, cji. Saturday, sunday, adcc. And then also CJI after party on the Saturday night and trying to back that up, yeah, it was a lot. And look, if you love jujitsu, it's fantastic. But I think in future people will choose, athletes will choose, the audience will choose and really best experience wins right, and I think we can say that on a lot of fronts across the board, even though we had friends at both events the CJI they won this. Boom, boom, big ups, cji. Good job, shoo. Thank you.

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