3 Signs You Have BJJ Burnout

Are you doing too much? It could be from too much BJJ, or too much lifting, or just too much going on in your life. These are the signs you might be doing too much and we also have some remedies for you.

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Signs of Overtraining in BJJ

Speaker 1 0:00

Welcome to the Bulletproof for BJJ podcast. Today, JT and I are going to tell you about the three signs that you might be overtraining. You're going to learn what those signs are and how to deal with them before they become a full-blown train wreck. You will also learn what mine and JT's personal indicators of overtraining are and how we like to deal with them. And, lastly, we're going to present to you how peaks and valleys are an important aspect of your training and when you can understand and embrace this, you will have the longest and most consistent training success. Hope you enjoy the episode. By the way, if you dig the show, do us a favor like, subscribe, follow, tell your friends about it. That simple thing goes a really long way to getting our show in front of more grapplers. Appreciate you. Let's get into it.

Speaker 2 0:56

Better listen very carefully.

Speaker 1 1:01

A good martial artist does not become tense but ready. Essentially, at this point the fight is over.

Speaker 2 1:10

So you pretty much flow with the goal. Who is worthy to be trusted with the secret to limitless power? I'm ready.

Speaker 1 1:39

I'm ready. Guy's just gone through big stint of uni, yep and uh, yeah, and I think he's still got some shit going on assessments or whatever, but like classes or whatever are done, um, or basically he's coming towards the end and, uh, he's falling to pieces yeah and we kind of predicted it, we, we knew we're in week seven of the program that we're doing yeah, and.

Speaker 1 2:02

And yeah, and there had just been like a growing sort of list of indications that were making a thing and we actually had a conversation about that yeah, you're probably going to crash, like once uni's done, you're probably going to hit the wall, and so I thought, well, fuck, this is. This is an important thing to talk about, because even when you're aware of these indications from God or from Helio or the universe, it's still very easy to ignore them. But most people have no idea what the indications are.

Speaker 2 2:37

Yeah, those signs from wherever you might say, the universe, your body, letting you know you're doing too much.

Speaker 1 2:45

Exactly, and so this is what we're going to get into today is like what are the three main signs that your body's going to give you, or the universe is going to give you, when you are over training? Now, I guess, as a kind of preface to this, we have to understand that training is a stress on the body, and it's a necessary stress. It's that stress that makes you better at jujitsu, makes you become fitter, makes you become stronger, build stronger joints, et cetera. If you don't have enough stress, then you don't change, and then, if you have too much stress, then you can injure yourself, make it worse. That's right. So we're always in the training process trying to manage this relationship with stress, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 3:30

It's a type of stimulus, so that can be stimulus for making joints stronger if you let them heal. Or it can be so much stimulus that those joints fucking break from the overstimulation because they've not healed.

Speaker 1 3:47

And I think, like you know, most people who are going to the gym and stuff probably don't think about it much in that way, do they Of? Like I do the work here, I create the damage here and then I take the time away from the gym and that's where the repair and the new muscle and the fucking, you know, whatever the tissue remodeling and shit occurs, yeah, it's pretty remarkable.

Speaker 2 4:07

I've always found it pretty awesome to think that you do this stuff. You break your body down and, provided you don't do anything too crazy and you give it enough time, it fixes. And not only does it fix, it gives you that little bit extra. Like, hey man, don't do that again. Be like ha-ha joke's on you, buddy, we're going to do it again and I'm going to use that little bit extra to go harder.

Speaker 2 4:30

I believe you know, with this one of the like people who go to the gym understand this from the kind of inherent, you know, muscle soreness you get from lifting weights or running or whatever you might be doing, you go right, I have to rest that until that soreness goes away. But in BJJ they're like nah, you're sore, oh, fuck it. Poor harder bro, just fucking sack up, just get out there. You got to be able to fight when you sore. You're like yeah, but this is really neglecting the body's natural process of healing. And don't get me wrong, yeah, sometimes you've got to be able to operate when you're feeling a bit sore, a bit stiff. But we really need to unpack these signs. So lead us in, joe. What is the first sign that you're doing too much?

Speaker 1 5:20

Yeah, so three main signs that we're going to chat about today. I don't actually rank these in order.

Speaker 2 5:25

No specific order.

Speaker 1 5:26

No, they could come at any point, they could all come together. It could be, you know, you might have the one for you that comes up often, but the first one is that your niggling injuries start to rear their head. So that thing that you get, you know, I've actually got a little bit of a lower back thing at the moment, and I'm going to say that it's been a recurring thing for me since my knee surgery, right. So I think it, you know, it's an indicator, right, and the it starts to rear its head, it starts to go hey, man, I'm a bit fucking aggravated, hey, I'm sore again and you're like, oh, that you know, and it's sure, let's, let's just kind of cancel out or place the caveat. You might've just done something specifically in a particular training session that aggravated the thing, but more often than not it's probably that sign from your body that, hey, I'm not handling the amount of load you're placing on me right now.

Speaker 2 6:21

It's a bit more systemic. Even though it might show up as, oh my fucking back's a bit jacked or fuck my knee's a bit swollen, this is a symptom of your whole system is not quite back to where it should be, and I think that's the hardest thing, because there's many contributing factors, whatever it might be. I mean, obviously you're working on specific moves that are stressing your lower back, but four weeks ago lower back was doing pretty good right, Like it wasn't as much a thing, you know I mean not as right now.

Speaker 1 6:55

Not right now.

Speaker 2 6:56

You know, yeah, the ups and downs, I think the difficulty, the thing that was like taught to me a long time ago by Paul Cech. I did a Paul Cech holistic life coaching seminar, did you? It was very fucking expensive. I'm a big fan of Paul.

Speaker 1 7:13

Cech.

Speaker 2 7:14

Paul Cech was a legend in the health and fitness industry and Cech practitioners are very detail-oriented, very smart folks, the high-level folks. I did his level one, level two. Anyway, he was talking about physiological load. So he was saying that if you get someone walking in the door and you go, right, they're coming in to lift weights saying they're going to squat 100 kilos. If they haven't slept, they haven't eaten, they're dehydrated, they're stressed. Slept, they haven't eaten, they're dehydrated, they're stressed. They technically already have about 50 kilos of physiological load on them from life, right, right. So just because they squatted 100 kilos last week doesn't mean they can do it today. Like 50 kilos today might feel like 100 kilos because of all this other shit that is fucking you up and we just ride it off, right, because we're taught to just just keep working, just keep work, like, just get on with it. You know, we, we, we have this attitude in Australia which is like, like, don't complain, get on with it, like that's. That's a bit of a thing, right.

Speaker 1 8:19

It's also the prevailing kind of ethos of strength, isn't it? It's like no, no, no, you've got to go harder than last week.

Speaker 2 8:26

Do the thing.

Speaker 1 8:27

Yeah, progress here, yeah, but yeah, I mean that's a fantastic way to put it right, because I've had that with clients certain clients that I know are carrying stress and I've often had not often, but a few times I've had that situation where they have that recurring thing. It's often lower back, it's a very common sort of region for that right, and we'll push it on a day and we won't push it, push it, but we'll just push it, maybe to where we were last week. But I'll be like fuck, this feels hard today. I can see they're struggling. And then they'll be like oh, oh, and you're like fuck, like their back goes out or whatever, and they've got to take a couple of weeks off training and it's the whole thing. And you're like I somehow knew that intuitively, that was going to happen.

Speaker 2 9:15

You anticipated it, yeah.

Speaker 1 9:17

And it is, and it's not for the 20 year old hearing this. It's probably doesn't make any sense to you right now.

Speaker 2 9:24

Well, I think I no.

Speaker 1 9:26

I tend to think it comes about once you got more on your plate, I think 20 year olds feel it.

Speaker 2 9:30

They just don't care, they have less responsibilities. They're like whatever, my fucking shit hurts, whatever, maybe you know. No, no, no, I think this is rosy-colored glasses.

Speaker 2 9:44

Oh imagine. No, I talk with some younger folks at this powerlifting gym I train at. They've got plenty of aches and pains. They just don't give a shit, they're just doing it. They'll just do it anyway because they're just like I don't know, I'm not fully broken, whereas the more you know, think sometimes that that can inhibit you to like. Ignorance is bliss in a way, when you're younger yeah you don't know.

Speaker 2 10:09

You're not like, oh, is this wrist cancer? And you google it. You're just like fuck, I can't hold my beer with my left hand. I guess it's gonna have to be my right, or vice versa. Yeah, we might be talking about beers, you might be talking about many things, but here's the thing I know for sure when I'm not recovered, I get swelling in my lower limbs like knees and ankles.

Speaker 2 10:36

It's poor circulation, basically Right, and that means my body's not recovered. If I wake up in the morning and I try and squat deep and I'm like, oh, my knees are like tight, like you might have had the experience. You're on an airplane, you sit down for a long time. Now I'm not someone who's inactive, but you know, inflammation and different things like niggles can show up in different ways. For me it's knees and ankles.

Speaker 2 10:56

How about that, yeah. And so if I can't do a full astrograph squat and I'm like my fuck my right knee's sore, that tells me body's not old gray mare sheep ain't what she used to be, so don't ignore the niggles. Is what we're saying, right?

Speaker 1 11:11

yeah, that's right it's, it's like you know you might the. The best strategy is sometimes to just like accommodate it in training so that you don't make it worse. Yeah, and then fucking respect it for a little while until you feel like things are back on track. Now let's get into it at the end. Let's talk about the other two things and then let's get into what some of the causes of this stress might be. Right, yeah, um, second one that comes up is you start to get sick? Yeah, and this is like oh fuck, I'm, you know, like I caught a cold. Now, same caveat you might have just come into contact with a fucking bug, or your kid fucking sneezed on you or someone else's kid.

Speaker 2 11:51

Kids bring it home, don't they?

Speaker 1 11:51

Yeah like maybe you just caught a cold, right, but more often than not your immune system is compromised and this shit that normally your immune system would be able to handle, it now can't handle. Yeah, and you're like fuck, I was sick only a couple of weeks ago and now I'm fucking sick again yeah, or like I never get sick. Why did I get sick?

Speaker 1 12:10

now sick yeah and, and I mean I find that one is that's probably less of a thing for me, the actual like catching something. But I notice like, um, I'll get skin problems, right, you know, I'll get. I'll get almost like eczema.

Speaker 2 12:26

Yeah.

Speaker 1 12:26

Eczema kind of symptoms and that, or like broken skin. I'll be like what the fuck? No similar similar.

Recognizing Signs of Overtraining in BJJ

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Speaker 1 13:32

Right.

Speaker 2 13:33

And that is like if I start to get like those patches around my eyes, my elbows, back of the knees, armpits, stuff like this, that's your body going fucking not happy here.

Speaker 2 13:45

Chief, you want to fucking slow down the caffeine my god yeah, and it's straight away, even though obviously you can have ointments and stuff like that, it is your immune system saying shit is not right and for some people it's their uh intestinal tract. Yeah, because other than your skin, which is kind of the first layer of defense, a lot of your immunity lives in your gut. So if you feel like, oh, my guts are off, you know you might be eating the same thing week in, week out. You're like, well, I don't really. You know we always have this on this night and that on that night and you haven't eaten anything dodgy.

Speaker 2 14:16

But you're like, oh, my God, you know inconsistency in uh stool sample. That's what they do in the hospital. They take stool samples and they looking at your poo is important. Yeah, they're like, oh, how consistent is that? You know and I think this is. It sounds strange, but really you know a lot of your immunity does live in your gut. So if suddenly your guts are off, that could be a sign that your immune system is playing up too. It's not just you ate dodgy food yeah, that's a really good one.

Speaker 1 14:45

I I noticed that, like, um, like I'll notice when I'm talking about, like, bowel movements, as you do when I'm. Well, you know we're here to have the conversation with you guys that you can't have with your friends that's true because you don't want to look uncool.

Speaker 2 15:00

But you know us, we like jt's got no problem looking uncool, you will lean into that, let's go um.

Speaker 1 15:07

But like, if I have a like, if I'm a bit beat up, like, say, I have a really shit sleep or, which will often happen, say on a weekend, if I go out and have a few drinks, sure you'll have a shit sleep the next day. My, my like movement is all fucked up. Yep, and I'm like, whoa, hang on a second, I'm not regular like. I am like and I know it's thrown out and that's kind of right. That's a good indicator of like, hey, man, you're not really operating particularly well today yeah don't go.

Speaker 1 15:34

Don't go fucking whatever. Don't go nuts at the open mat.

Speaker 2 15:37

Don't go lift heavy weights yeah, and I think this is. This is the thing, like you're saying um, yeah, immune system is usually the first thing, and we always, we always blame external stuff with immunity. We're like oh so, and so was sneezing at work and it's their fault, I'm sick, but you, I guess we look for the culprit, like what did?

Speaker 2 15:59

I do there was something outside, but often what it can be is the accumulation of hard week of training, many weeks of built up lifting, stress at work, like everyone's trying to go nuts to get stuff done before a deadline. You're at uni, you got exams there's all these stress factors that pile on which ultimately contribute to it presenting as your immune system can only take so much, and then maybe it's the straw that breaks the immune systems back and then you get sick. Yeah, it's not necessarily one big thing. It can be that accumulation of life stuff.

Speaker 1 16:38

And I think that that sort of um, like that comparison you make of like what was the thing that made me sick, there's an assumption there that you are, like never exposed to, like um, you know, bacteria every single fucking day, yeah it kind of assumes that, like you're not constantly fighting against things in your environment, but the thing is, your immune system constantly is fighting every fucking day.

Speaker 1 17:05

Yeah, and so when, when you're healthy and well rested, your immune system can do a great job and deal with it, and it's that time when it drops its guard, when the shit gets in. And so, yeah, I think it's really good to, I think that's a really good way to frame it in your mind of like, why am I defenses down?

Speaker 2 17:25

defenses down, yeah, you know. Yeah, what's what's overloading my system? Yeah, and look, there's folks out there who will say there's no such thing as over training, only under recovering. I heard that a million times and that's, that's fine. You can, you can, you can say it whatever way you want to say it. Right, but in our day-to-day lives it is a default mode. We do do too much and I am the fucking poster boy for that shit, just because I.

Speaker 2 17:47

I have tried to scale it back, but you know I I cannot get away from trying to get as much done in a day as possible and it often leaves me on empty. I get home and I fucking crash. I'm all good up until a point and then I'm fucking useless. And this is I mean, that's not the side of myself. Only Ola really gets to see me being like just fucking nonverbal, sitting on the couch like wrecked. But then I also have to deal with that.

Speaker 2 18:19

I don't leave a lot in the tank for me to just feel healthy and good outside of my day-to-day pursuits. And this is this is bad. This is a bad habit, because I actually find myself feeling unhealthy when I could just be feeling good. You know like it's like I want to use myself up, but it's like you're not a battery pack, that you're a human being. You know you. You should actually feel good. You should be able to find moments of feeling good outside of the stuff you do.

Speaker 2 18:48

And if you're not and this might go to your next point, joe maybe you've got to go fuck. There's so much on right now and a lot of people go. Well, I don't have time to stretch, I can't afford to get a massage, I can't not do everything at once. Well, once you get sick and injured, you can't do fucking anything. You are forced to stay at fucking home, take the drugs, sit on the couch, have the fever, and then nothing's getting done. And so I think being able to scale back is a pretty important thing, whatever it might be, to stop you from redlining and ultimately getting injured or sick.

Speaker 1 19:29

Yeah, so my old man was notoriously terrible at taking holidays, right, and he ran his own business. He ran like a nursery, right, so he just, and he did really well with it. Mum was in the business too, but you know, 50-50, right, she was there, but he was like the Pushed it. He was the guy, he was the horticulturalist, he was the one that had the passion for plants, et cetera, and you know he was great at it. Whenever a holiday would come around and I only understood this once, I started my own small business, right, and a physical business like the gym, yeah, a business that. It was a building that had to open up every day and people wanted to come there and it's like the lights have got to be on and shit, you have to show up and, um, he fucking hated taking holidays and we'd always, you know, he'd end up coming on holiday and day one of every fucking holiday he'd get sick and he'd get a migraine, migraines were his thing.

Speaker 1 20:23

So he'd fucking come away where you know, whatever we're going to, the fucking snow or some shit, yeah, and then he'd be struck down with this hectic migraine and um, you know, I can kind of remember a few instances, but I think he would either be stuck on the couch for the whole trip or he'd just fuck off back home. And you know, and it's like so, there's something interesting in that right which is whereby your, your body, somehow understands that we got to keep it together because we're in the middle of it right now, yeah, and then, as soon as you have the opportunity to fucking chill, it goes all right, now's you?

Recognizing Physical Signs of Overtraining

Speaker 1 20:55

now you're gonna pay yeah, and for sure it's that sorry yeah no, I mean, it's just I I don't know what it is, maybe, maybe like the stress hormones or something that are present when you're in there. Yeah, I like giving you some kind of short-term immunity, just like. Yeah, so you can just fucking get up and grind again one more week and then we're going to fucking strike you with this migraine or tonsillitis or whatever. It's just. It's amazing how that happens, don't you think?

Speaker 2 21:19

Yeah, and if you look at a lot of our cold and flu drugs, they're stimulants, they're like you know, push through. Yeah, it's just.

Speaker 1 21:28

They're fucking great, by the way. Oh, it's fucking great.

Speaker 2 21:30

Mate, I'll smash a fucking Lemsip. You give me fucking a thousand grand. I've never had a Lemsip. It's the best. It's just paracetamol and like Lemon, no, no know, a like a stimulant, like a low grade speed, basically yeah. So you're just like no, it contains no lemon, has lemon flavor. You're just like. It's just like it's a warm drink.

Speaker 2 21:51

So you get that nice warm drink thing, but then it's like the pain's gone away and now I feel energetic you're like I'm gonna start a new app productivity, um, but with that I always used to find it with jujitsu competitions there would be so much stress building up to the competition and hard training. The stress of the competition itself was really full on. There's adrenaline all day. You know I always used to like to fight weight and absolute, so you might have two days of immense whatever to come over, huge relief, and then the next week I was fucked and you may have experienced this and put this in the definitely chuck this in the comments. If you experience this, the post competition come down where you can barely train maybe because the adrenaline's worn off. The injuries from the comp or whatever's come through and I always used to just be wrecked every week post-comp and the more I competed the kind of the crooker I was through this stress cycle.

Speaker 2 22:55

But it's interesting what you say there, that we have created these artificial like when I say artificial like man-made, human-made constructions of like Christmas holidays or Easter break or summer break. And there's this deadline like tax time. We've got to get it in before the end of the financial year and people are like, oh, it's fucking hectic around tax time and I'm like I don't do my tax. Who cares? Leave that to the accountant Also, for many years didn't have an accountant. But uh, you know it's one of those things that it's totally artificial and everyone's like, oh man, this time of year it's so stressful, isn't it? You know? I know it's so stressful and people are just geeing themselves up. And then you, oh, now we have holidays, we can have a break, and people just yeah, it just yeah, and it's somehow our physiology can calibrate with these man-made sort of down periods.

Speaker 2 23:46

Yeah, but it's this overload that then results in sickness or injury or the next thing. Yeah and uh, I believe, um, within this, you said there was a third thing there. There is a third thing Please.

Speaker 1 24:01

Third one is you notice that your sleep starts to fall to shit Oof, and this could be because you're getting sick, it could be because the niggling injury is popping up at 2 am and fucking waking you up every night Keeps your jaw skin turning. But just generally, I think most of us, except for those that have great sleep privilege if you have that, then you probably never think about your sleep. Fuck you. Yeah, you just have an awesome time for like eight or nine hours every night, enjoy your life.

Speaker 1 24:31

But I would say for the majority of us, we kind of wake up every day and like review our sleep. Oh fuck, how was I? I'm a bit tired. I had a shit sleep, yeah. Oh fuck, how was I'm a bit tired, I had a shit sleep, yeah, um. And so when you notice that generally your sleep quality is reduced, maybe the duration's fine, but you're like, fuck, I don't. Just I'm waking up, I'm not feeling rested, um was tossing and turning.

Speaker 2 24:54

You had a piece on this right, like yeah, one of the massive signs that you're doing too much is your body temperature is elevated and you're sweaty as hell. Your body's under stress and we want you to be able to get through without getting injured. Dehydration is going to kill your ability to take this stress. The solution sodium Sodium is the perfect mix of sodium, potassium and magnesium which is going to enable the water to be in your muscles, ready to fight any stress that you combat. You go to sodiicomau and use the code bulletproof15. You get 15% off. Get some delicious hydration salts and you'll be ready to take on any challenge. So for me, with the, with the um, with the sleep thing, I'm a hot blooded human. I'm also a sweaty human.

Speaker 1 25:46

Body temp just eats too much animal fat.

Speaker 2 25:49

That's all that is that's true, just be pumping, pumping, just like my physiology is totally different to you guys.

Speaker 1 25:56

It is built different.

Speaker 2 25:58

Uh no, I think it's one of those things that like and part of the reason why I kind of stopped training at nighttime was I found I'd do night training for BJJ. My adrenaline would be through the roof. I'd get home, I'd eat, I'd drink, I'd shower and then I'd be sweating Like the adrenaline would still be going.

Speaker 2 26:18

Yeah, and I'd lie down and I, I just throw all the covers off. I fucking trying to cool down and and, uh, all at once, all the covers was totally fine, but she, when she goes to sleep and relaxes, she emits massive amounts of heat and I'm trying to cool this. She's like trying to cuddle up to me. I'm like, fuck off, like I'm trying trying to cool down over here, I get the fan and shit. I'm like I and I can't regulate my body temperature and I'll even wake up and I'll be like, oh my god, my pillow and shit. Like the shit is like wet with sweat.

Speaker 1 26:51

I'm like I don't feel good you don't think it has anything to do with a thousand milligrams of caffeine. You ingested.

Speaker 2 26:58

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Actually, caffeine doesn't affect my sleep, but what no, no, no. Seriously, though, elevated body temperature, but this is also associated for any of you who are into the kind of heart rate variability and checking your whoop and stuff like that, even though they are wildly inaccurate, you still making that. Claim, bro, I don't need to say shit. Ask any motherfucker. Claim, bro, I don't need to say shit.

Speaker 1 27:22

Ask any motherfucker I we will find all the data, like it's been. Wasn't it a heart rate thing that it was?

Speaker 2 27:24

partly partly heart rate, partly calorie burning, partly everything, and it's not working on. But I mean, what I would say is, when you are looking at, say, a sleep track and stuff like this part of it will measure your physical activity, like how settled you are, and also how deep your sleep goes is dependent on your ability to cool down Right. If you can't cool down, you can't reach those deeper realms of sleep and it will be hard for you to get into the REM sleep, which is where you get great mental and physical recovery. Yeah, and so that's the other thing too.

Speaker 2 28:00

Elevated resting heart rate is an indicator of being under recovered or over trained right, yeah so what they used to get us to do back in the days when I did taekwondo. They were like take your pulse as soon as you wake up. I'm like the fuck you're talking about. I was like my pulse is through, the alarm goes off and I'm like fuck the alarm. Heart rate's like 120, but basically if your resting heart rate is elevated, your like body temp is above normal, your system is under stress yeah that's that's the thing funny.

Speaker 1 28:31

You say that my son was actually really sick yesterday, kind of a one yeah, he's much better today, but he was really sick, like he's not normally ever, you know, and so we're like fuck, keeping an eye on him and he was just sort of like stuck on the couch and he slept really well last night, but we could hear like throughout the night. I could hear him. He was like like his breath, like his heart rate was really high.

Speaker 2 28:56

Right.

Speaker 1 28:56

And yeah, it's because he's got a temperature and it's like and he's fighting something right, very fascinating though seemed to have a great sleep. And then he said oh, he woke up. He's great, yeah, but just fascinating, right?

Speaker 2 29:08

yeah, like elevated body temperature, increased heart rate, like these are all signs that like you're fucking battling something right now yeah, and and the challenge here is that if, like, psychological factors are obviously in there, if you're really worried about something coming up or you don't know how to deal with a problem, that level of stress in your mind can also mean that you can't calm the whole system down. That's part of it too. It might not even be jujitsu, it might just be like fucking your mortgage or interest rates. Yeah, you had an argument with your partner, or yeah, that's right something.

Speaker 1 29:45

It could be something very like I, I, um, I had the other day like I just had to do some some work stuff right before I went to bed, and I usually I obviously try to avoid that, but it was like no, no, I'm just gonna do this because this will make tomorrow a better day yeah and then it fucked me like I couldn't.

Speaker 1 30:02

I couldn't get to sleep for a couple of hours and I was like tired the next day and it was like sure I saved something because I got it done that day. But I was like, was it worth it?

Speaker 2 30:10

you borrowed from tomorrow. That's exactly right. Yeah, that that point of uh diminishing returns, yeah, where more action doesn't equate to a better result, necessarily.

Speaker 1 30:20

So let's like what are we going to do with all this information?

Speaker 1 30:23

Yeah well, let's look at like when some of the classic times where this stuff will happen to you, like when you're susceptible to it, and specifically within the training space. So you already mentioned like competition, so you've been training really hard building up to that. It's been a stressful event. You've got it done. Following the comp in the week after you're probably like you probably want to back it off. Yeah, give yourself some leeway.

Speaker 1 30:50

I find and this is probably what's flaring up my lower back a little bit is when you are on a training program and you are towards the end, the top end of the block.

Speaker 1 31:02

Yeah, and because this is maybe something folks don't think about, but say you start a new program, let's say it's six weeks long. In the first couple of weeks you're kind of learning new movements and finding where you're at with them. You're not going particularly heavy. And then weeks three, four, weight's going up, you're starting to apply more intensity in the sessions. Once you get to like weeks five, six and if it's an even longer program, further down the track, now all of your sets are heavy and you also have some like accumulated fatigue from all those weeks prior. So you can often find yourself on a bit of a knife's edge at the end of a program, and this is why you would usually finish your program and then don't yeah, don't jump straight into a program on the next week yeah like, kick around for a bit deload, maybe take a week to work on some other shit in the gym, yeah, um, basically take it a bit lighter and then start the process again.

Speaker 1 31:56

But so, yeah, I know, for me I tend not to think about that too much, but then I'll look at it. I'll be like, oh fuck, it's week seven, oh yeah, okay, that's why I'm feeling that way.

Speaker 2 32:06

Yeah, and I think, once the problem is a lot of us. Well, I think a lot of the chat in society is about just continual growth. You know, why isn't everything 10xing Like, why isn't everything just up and to the right? And what we understand really well, at least from a training perspective, is you have peaks and troughs. It's this kind of this wave effect that you build up and then you back off. And you build up and you back off, and there's times where you leave something alone completely and you go work on something else. But because we have this overriding thought of I have to get better, I have to get better, I don't want to miss my opportunity, there's like, um, yeah, it's almost like a performance anxiety, but it's. It's reinforced by people around us, like, oh, like you go on the grading, like you know, with so much social pressure around performance that it's really underrated to go-.

Speaker 1 33:03

You're doing the comp right? Yeah, you're doing the comp. You're competing, yeah.

Speaker 2 33:05

You're training for the comp. You're pretty good, you should. You're like oh, my ego, wow, my ego just pricked up. Should I compete? Maybe I should compete. It's really, and I think it's a byproduct of the kind of first world Western capitalist culture which is just you know, fuck. You're starting to sound like me, bro. Do I sound like a communist? No, but I'm saying it's unreasonable to think that you're always just going to get stronger and stronger and you're always going to get better and better. Things do not work like that, and sometimes you've got to go to the side a bit back, a little bit, yeah, but that's why the consistency is important. And built into the consistency, I think and this is something we've talked about many times before is your ability to, um, achieve something or see improvement, but then also, um, not necessarily give yourself a break, but like back off like, allow yourself to be in a trough a little bit.

Speaker 2 34:06

Yeah, you don't have to always push the same thing over and over, and if we look at the seasons and food and the way we've lived throughout our whole lives, it was very rare you ever got to do the same thing every fucking day, all day, like that's just not how life was. And the fact that we've artificially created this environment can actually lead us to less better outcomes, because it's just doing the same shit all the time.

Listening to Signals and Pacing Yourself

Speaker 1 34:32

Yeah, spot on. I was listening to a guy recently. I can't remember the subject of the discussion, but he was talking about how. He was talking about like winter solstice in the northern hemisphere and how you would have like, basically, like summer would be extremely busy because you would be harvesting, and so you know you'd be spring, you're planting, summer, you're harvesting, and it's like hard physical work and then winter come, or then like the autumn comes and and it's like, yeah, you can't really do anything now, but that was almost the down period that people needed to give them the energy to then go hard next summer, yeah you know, next spring rather. And it's like, yeah, we've just bypassed all that. We've got the drugs to mask it, we've got the caffeine, we've got the culture and the mindset, we've got the artificial light yeah and, and we do all expect that.

Speaker 1 35:25

It's just like what am I like one percent better every day, every week, whatever, um, and I mean I'm guilty of this, right you just you have that expectation of yourself and then when you get struck down, you're like I'm sick, I'll take a few days off. Yeah, but the the smarter way to do it, and and and I think as a practice and I and this is something I try to do is to recognize when you're getting those signals and go well, if I take one step back this week, then next week I can take two steps forward, and that's on a on a long enough timeline, that's consistent growth.

Speaker 2 35:59

That's progress.

Speaker 1 36:01

Yeah, um, and I think that's the big takeaway for you guys is if you feel one of these things is is cropping up and you and it it happens to you, it's like fuck, this is not the first time this has happened. Back it off for a bit, take it easy. Don't do the fucking hard rounds that night. Don't go super heavy at the gym. Super heavy at the gym. Maybe fucking take a day off training and like go for a swim in the ocean or some shit, do something different.

Speaker 1 36:21

Yeah, do something different like have a good sleep, eat some food, get hydrated and then fucking win tomorrow. Some days poor harder, that's right.

Speaker 2 36:29

Do this, folks.

Speaker 1 36:30

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