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There's A New World Champion And Here's Why...
Has the ecological approach changed the game? Or is Deandre Corbe just that good already? Is Greg Souders the reason for his triumph or his past and love of the BJJ game. Find everything you want to know here...
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A good martial artist does not become tense, but ready. Essentially, at this point, the fight is over, so you pretty much flow with the goal. Who is worthy to be trusted with the secret to limitless power? I'm ready. Deandre Corbet is the new 160-pound Sapatero world champion. 100k, the man is rich Sapatero. What's that? Sapatero is a competition, like a tournament. Set up competition. They've been doing a few comps for a while now and they put the big money up where US 100k, yes, sir. And the question is this he beat.
Speaker 1:It was a stacked category. It was a lot of top, top champions in there, some of the best, not all, but definitely the number one guy was in there and DeAndre Corbett beat him. The gentleman he beat was Diego Pato. Oh, he beat Pato. Yeah, who is the ADCC champion and pretty much who's number one Dude. He beat our boy from Canada. Yep, fucking, how does the name escape us? It's all right, it'll come back. It'll come back. But yeah, he holds two different titles. Is it the Fight Pass titles or is it? Maybe it's the Flow Grappling one? But yeah, he's on a tear. He's considered to be the number one guy. Deandre beat him and it was he couldn't. He couldn't, pato couldn't effectively footlock him, couldn't take his back. Deandre passed his guard Like he beat a lot of good guys. He beat Max Hansen, he beat, he submitted a lot of people and in the final he kneebarred josh cisneros. Oh, did he. Who is also amazing top 10 dude? Right, the ethan krelstein was in the pool, gianna gianni grippo was in the pool. Now they're not the guys he fought, but it was an all-star thing. It wasn't like a gimme. Yeah, does this prove the ecological approach works? Oh, wow, is this the proof in the pudding that the ecological approach no drilling, just concepts, baby can produce the best grappler in the world? This is what what I'm saying. So he trains with your boy, greg Souders, yep standard jiu-jitsu.
Speaker 1:There's been a few videos in reaction to this, saying see, I told you like a lot of this right, a lot of this chat, and I wanted to one acknowledge it was a great achievement, one getting paid a hundred grand because he said, like him, his brother. You know they have worked nine to fives, you know they, they. Well, deandre's got a brother, yeah, younger brother. Both grapple, both great. He also competed, did well, didn't win. Um, it's a challenge to be a professional athlete and he's so overwhelmed he starts crying because he's like I never thought I could make money doing this. I just did this because I love this and that's amazing. Right, it's amazing. He's now Flo Graffling's number one guy at that weight yeah, wow. And Diego Pato's now number two. So it's like fuck Does this? Is this a real statement for eco, like I know all my eco bros out there like fuck, you pump the fist right and you know this is the canary in the coal mine, if you will. Yeah, the death of drilling. That's right. Maybe, maybe not, I don't know. It's. The interesting thing for me is that they're both.
Speaker 1:I met Greg Souders and I met DeAndre at ADCC. They're both very nice people to chat to. They're just there, they're doing their thing. They're not, you know, they're not taking up all the space in the world like Wagner and Cyborg. Haven't you had a bit of beef with Souders? No, not beef. No, no, no, no, no. I think the thing about Greg is he is, you know, he's obsessed with teaching and his method. He's obsessed with teaching and his method and I I had previously said I don't know if this is the way.
Speaker 1:I didn't say, it's not the way. I just questioned and Greg didn't love it, and so we went back and forth like it was essays in the comments, right, and I said, man, like I'm not, I'm not a hater, but I can also doubt, like I can question, right, like that's I'm entitled to that. I say I don't know if it is all that you say, it is, and there have been plenty of people who have pushed back on it, you know. And I got plenty of hate from also other folks who are like ecological devotees who run their whole school by it. Yeah, cool, good for you, no problem. But I'm not. I didn't say this is bad or it's not good, I just said I don't know, I don't believe it's necessarily the one true way. I don't know if you can say any one way is the way right. Everyone has different ways to learn.
Speaker 1:So I met Greg, I met DeAndre, and they're great. And I said, man, I'd come train with you next time I'm in the state. So, yeah, please come train, man, find out what it's all about. Like they were, they were cool, they're very cool, very welcoming, right. And so I was like, wow, that's the.
Speaker 1:I was expecting less friendly in-person chat, you know. You know because you met him in person after you had an exchange on social online. Yeah, yeah and I. I think he's probably had a million exchanges with just randoms online so he wouldn't remember. And I said, you know, you and I did not agree on the internet. He's like, yeah, man, he just didn't give a shit. Obviously they're focused on just fucking. You know, deandre trying to win the fucking ADCC, which didn't happen at that time, but now he's the number one guy, right. So I just wanted to put it out there and go.
Speaker 1:This is interesting. I don't think it necessarily proves anything per se, but you've got to say, if the number one guy just trains the ecological approach in the category, what, what does? Is this a signal for us to do to the people now? Are they paying more attention? Well, it's yeah, it's a single data point which can't be taken as significant, however, an indication that that that it has legs.
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Speaker 1:What I don't understand is and I don't really understand the ecological approach. Look, this is not meant to be a chat, no, no, dissecting that, we don't need to go into that either. But what I observe is a lot of people talking shit about it, and I know they don't know fucking anything about it either. Sure, so I'm like you don't even know what it is that you're critiquing. Sure, and so in that regard, I'm like, yeah, it's probably going to be. There'll probably be a bunch of people that have put their foot in their mouth, because I can't imagine that any sort of considered approach to teaching could not be effective at teaching, potentially, albeit, just an alternative way of doing things.
Speaker 1:Sure, but I guess the pushback has been that people have been using the ecological method in tandem with, like, under a different name. You know what I mean. Like, obviously, they have their own constraints-based games and different things like that, and so they have a specific method of teaching beginners through to experts. Right, that's how they do it, whereas the pushback and oh no, flanagan is like a, a real. He, he loves to just I think he's just a troll. Yeah, he loves to have a bit of fun.
Speaker 1:Put hashtag ecological, you know like, because he, he loves to drill, he has drilled, will, will drill, you know, and he doesn't. His take is different, you know, and there is many high-level folks who are like, yeah, we have been doing similar things to the ecological approach, but also drilling technique, yeah. And then there's folks we utilize a multitude of different approaches, of different things. And then there's folks who are like, yeah, but imagine if Coprinha didn't waste all that time drilling. Imagine if he just did that. Like, imagine if Bruce Lee was a jiu-jitsu black belt, he could have been so much better. Four-time ADCC champion, four-time world champion. You know like, you're like fuck, how much better can a guy be in his lifetime? You know like, yeah, I definitely think learning and teaching involves.
Speaker 1:But then I I had a conversation with someone who, let's say he's, uh, maybe playing devil's advocate. Now, this person doesn't have a horse in the race, they're not a jujitsu teacher, they're jujitsu black belt. But they're very smart person. But I chat to them online sometimes. This person said to me oh, but it's like the cancer man from the X-Files. Oh, this guy is a cancer man. Right on he is.
Speaker 1:And he said, well, he's a little bit of a pushback. This is not mine, this is his opinion. But I listened to it. I was like, oh, that's interesting as a note, I love that. That was quite Trumpian. How you're framing, framing this. No, this is not my opinion. This is what somebody told me. No, no, apparently he eats cats, something.
Speaker 1:I heard his face weak, weak, fate, I don't know. It's uh, no, here's the thing. What'd your mate say? My mate said, uh, that essentially our guy, deandre corbet, did not get his black belt under Greg Souders. He got his black belt under Nestor Bayot and was in his kids' program white belt to black belt one of the only people to ever do that, and really that's where he built his game. He did join Greg a number of years later.
Speaker 1:Some might say that that's not what made him great. Training under Greg is what made him great, yeah, so there's these different counterpoints there, of course. So that was mentioned. I was like, oh okay, well, I didn't actually know that originally, right, I just thought these, you know, the Corbett kids just came up under Souders and then that's why they're so good, right, yeah. But his counterpoint was no, that's not necessarily the case, right?
Speaker 1:So all to the side, deandre is the champ I am excited to see. You know, is that something that can be maintained? Can he then go fight other? Because you know we have I haven't. He may have fought micka galvan, but I haven't seen that. You know, it'd be great to see him take on one of the Rotolo brothers, or you know like what weight is he? 160 pounds, so I think that is excuse my math 75? 70-ish kilos, 72, maybe, right, maybe a bit less. So it's lightweight. But lightweight is such a stacked category for jiu-jitsu, yeah, and there's so many top level guys in there. So it'd be great to see what he does next and interested to see what this does for the ecological learning cause. Exciting times, folks.
Speaker 1:Anyway, factual inaccuracies is what we are good for, but, uh, but for me, like I said, I don't want want to demonize or champion, I want to discuss it, though. I want that discussion because I want to hear what people have to say, whether you might have a counterpoint or maybe you are doubling down on. No, that's not necessarily the case, but it's an important discussion to have because as we see trends in jiu-jitsu, we can see an evolution in the culture. Is this the first step in an evolutionary change, an ecological change? Oh, there it is. Folks, that's the pod. We appreciate you listening. I get some hands on these fresh bulletproof t-shirts, different colors, arranged to suit your everyday wear. Wear it in the gym, wear it to training, wear it out to a bar at night. You will impress your counterparts and your fellow jujitsu brethren and you'll be telling the world that you're part of the bulletproof of BJJ fam. You can get them at fanwarecomau. Go get some Love. You guys, get some you.
