Bulletproof For BJJ Podcast
Discussions on improving your BJJ, navigating mat-politics and all aspects of the jiu jitsu lifestyle. Multiple weekly episodes for grapplers of any level. Hosted by JT and Joey - Australian jiu jitsu black belts, strength coaches, and creators of Bulletproof For BJJ App. Based out of Sydney, Australia
Bulletproof For BJJ Podcast
Are You Interrupting Your Own Progress?
Are you constantly trying to improve your game? Maybe you are asking the right questions but at the WRONG time. We have all done this, but is it actually a grave mistake? Find out here on this episode of the Bulletproof For BJJ Podcast.
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A good martial artist does not become tense but ready. Essentially, at this point the fight is over.
Speaker 1:So you pretty much flow with the goal. Who is worthy to be trusted with the secret to limitless power?
Speaker 2:I'm ready so I had a conversation with the blue belt after we rolled yesterday, okay, and I shared a piece of feedback for him. That is something that I learned from a great teacher many years ago and I actually wanted to run it by you and get your take on this Intriguing. Let's go. Let me set the context. So, um, you know I coach a little bit. Um, this guy is a like a really good blue belt, lovely fella I won't mention his name, he knows who he is, but, um, big guy, right, it's probably, I don't know, he's probably 100 kilos, 105, something like that. Right, big, has a hard time finding people that he can go hard with, right. And so we've established like, yeah, you can go as hard as you want with me. Um, and so I know that when, when we get to train, when I'm, you know, coaching him or at the same class, that he's going to want to roll with me yes and so it doesn't happen often.
Speaker 2:And I finished the class, we wrapped it up and then like, hey, do you want to do an extra round? And he's like. And he, as I was like saying to him, he's like yes, you know, and I was like fuck it.
Speaker 2:So we did a round. It was great, Super strong guy, you know, good, like good jits, coming along. He, I passed his guard and then, you know, had him in side control for a bit and then eventually armbarred him Right Right. Now, six-minute round. There's one minute 30 seconds left on the clock. We come up from the tap, cool reset. And sorry, we don't get up.
Speaker 2:He says to me what do I need to do there, Like that armbar, like what should I have done? Right, Right, Very reasonable question, Fair. So I'm like, oh well, you know, it's me bringing the leg over the head. That's a real problem. So if you could be looking for a way to not let that, you know blah, blah, blah. And so you know, kind of. And he's like, oh yeah, cool, and so let's just have a look at that. And fucking did a little push-pull and then it was over and it got me thinking. I was like, man, like that six minutes that we get is Like like you need to treasure that. It's precious Right, Especially given the context. Yes, you don't get to see me often, Big guy, Go hard on me.
Speaker 1:Here we are, let's do it yes.
Speaker 2:And I said, while I think your question about defending the armbar is a great thing to ask, I don't think you should be doing that in the middle of us doing the thing. Agreed, I'm like you should just roll with me for six minutes. You should have just got up and like, okay, you unbarred me, I'm going to fucking get it back. I'm going to fucking whatever. Go hard for the next 90 seconds and then let's have the conversation. Agreed, okay?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So the question is is that the right approach?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but then I thought, well, you know, maybe, maybe, and that's my approach. But then I thought, well, maybe that really cemented, like maybe I try an armbar him next time and it's really cemented for him, the defense on the armbar, Maybe now, because he did ask me immediately following the event maybe that's like really solidified for him. So I was like, oh, I don't actually know. Then Maybe your approach was great as well.
Speaker 1:What's your take? Okay, so my take on that I believe there is actually some research that shows that the immediacy of the feedback is is important to the learning right. So, as soon as you can correct a mistake, that that then really gets it in the system potent moment. Yeah, that's when you're most receptive because you'd like what? Come, come on, solve my problem. But here's also, uh, the other side of that is learning and doing are not.
Speaker 1:Even though gee Souders might disagree with me, the learning and the doing are not the same. Like you shouldn't be learning when you're executing. There should be no thinking. Like in the moment of execution, it should just be no thought. They're separate processes. Yeah, they are separate processes.
Speaker 1:So, as long as it's, maybe that's the conversation you've got to have with your man. He's like no, when we're rolling, we're rolling. I'm not teaching you at this point. The teaching is me beating the fuck out of you, bro. Like you, you get in this lesson, save your questions for after. And because there is only a limited amount of time and in that time you've got to work. So, yeah, for me it's like trying to give someone feedback while they're squatting. That's distracting, that's not good, you know, even though it's obviously that's more rudimentary than the complexity of rolling Same kind of scenario yeah, you've got to. In the moment of doing you need to be focusing on. There's so many variables that when you start bringing in questions and feedback, it just. I personally believe that that is not the time to learn Immediately. Post-training is money, but I believe that execution and learning, even though they inform each other, it should not be done at the same time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's exactly my thinking and that brings me to. So that was the lesson, the rule that I learned, right, so it was from Ido Portal.
Speaker 2:He mentioned this at a movement camp years ago and he actually got it from. I thought I'd share this because it's quite fascinating John Cage's top 10 rules for students. Okay, right now, I didn't know at the time who john cage was, but he was an artist, philosopher and an influential composer of the 20th century. Wow, he's credited for writing a set of rules for creativity purposes. Cool. So he's got these 10 rules, um, and I thought, okay, so you'll see, you'll hear the rule that is relevant to it. But I thought let me just read them all, because there's some fucking cool ones in here, Some gems.
Speaker 2:Rule one find a place you trust and then try trusting it for a while. Rule two general duties as a student pull everything out of your teacher. Pull everything out of your fellow students. Rule three general duties as a teacher pull everything out of your students students. Rule three general duties as a teacher pull everything out of your students. Rule four consider everything an experiment.
Speaker 2:Rule five be self-disciplined. This means finding someone wise or smart and choosing to follow them. To be disciplined is to follow in a good way. To be self-disciplined is to follow in a better way. Rule six nothing is a mistake. There is no win and no fail. There is only make. Rule seven the only rule is work. If you work, it will lead to something. It is the people who do all the work all the time who eventually catches on to things. That's pretty cool, Nice.
Speaker 2:Rule eight do not try to create and analyze at the same time. They are different processes, which is exactly what I said to old mate and what you just said. Rule nine be happy whenever you can manage it. Enjoy yourself. It is lighter than you think. Rule 10, quote we are breaking all the rules, even our own rules. And how do we know that? By leaving plenty of room for X qualities. That's a quote from John Cage, Right? Oh, helpful hints added to the bottom of that. Always be around, come or go to everything. Always go to classes, read everything you can get your hands on, Look at movies carefully and often save everything. It may come in handy later. Nice, that's a pretty fucking cool rules.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's great. I think there's a lot to be taken from that for life in general.
Speaker 2:I like, I like that. You know there's. There's a lot in that. Actually that speaks to what we've passed on, how we've responded in a lot of our Q&As, but that one find a place you can trust and try trusting it for a while. Yeah Right, it's like just find it seems okay, have faith, stick with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the hardest thing for all of this is the time it takes to cultivate anything, whether it's a skill, a relationship, a physical quality. It's our ability to stay in it, even when the outcomes are not obvious. You know, there's a gestation phase in there yeah, so I mean off that.
Speaker 2:I guess, like you know, say we're talking about that scenario that I had with my mate. There is something, there's a sacrifice, you're always sacrificing something. So for him to stop the roll and ask me the technical question he sacrificed whatever could have been experienced in the rest of the role. Yes, perhaps what he gained was more valuable than that. Perhaps, perhaps right. But also, had he have just continued rolling, there was something to be gained from that, but he might've sacrificed the ability to learn the bit of technique that he really needed. True, so there it is.
Speaker 2:That that's nice, that's a good lesson hey, fam, get your hands on these bulletproof t-shirts. You can get them at fanwarecomau. Bunch of colors, you get discount if you get multiple. Rep the tribe. We'll see you somewhere, peace you.
